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interlining baggage to UA on separate tickets, do you need to pay? how?

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Old Mar 27, 18, 10:34 pm
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interlining baggage to UA on separate tickets, do you need to pay? how?

I'm flying 2 separate tickets: ICN-IAD on KE and then onward on UA.

KE will check my baggage through to my final destination. I will retrieve my bag at IAD midfield and then hand it off at the transfer desk and go to the UA gate.

Here's the rub. How do I pay UA the $25 bag check fee? I'm a transit passenger and not going landside.

I'm on a very tight connection and any gumming of the works will be a problem.

Called UA, talked to three people and gave up when they couldn't even understand the nature of the question.
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Old Mar 27, 18, 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by saaveraward View Post
I'm flying 2 separate tickets: ICN-IAD on KE and then onward on UA.

KE will check my baggage through to my final destination. I will retrieve my bag at IAD midfield and then hand it off at the transfer desk and go to the UA gate.

Here's the rub. How do I pay UA the $25 bag check fee? I'm a transit passenger and not going landside.

I'm on a very tight connection and any gumming of the works will be a problem.

Called UA, talked to three people and gave up when they couldn't even understand the nature of the question.
If KE will actually interline your baggage to UA on separate tickets, you won't owe anything. You'll just drop it off. Otherwise, you'll need to recheck it.

How tight is your connection? If your KE flight is late, you're stuck in customs, or even if you have to go landside to check the bag because KE won't interline, you're not necessarily protected on UA.
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Old Mar 27, 18, 10:43 pm
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Of course, I understand I am not protected in this situation and there is another flight 4 hours later if needed.

Layover is a shade under 2 hours but bag should be first out and I'm using mobile entry mid day on a weekend. So hoping for the best.

KE says in writing they will check to the final destination.... and I gave up with UA telling me they only have arrangements with *A and NO other airlines which is not true.
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Old Mar 27, 18, 10:56 pm
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Originally Posted by saaveraward View Post
Of course, I understand I am not protected in this situation and there is another flight 4 hours later if needed.

Layover is a shade under 2 hours but bag should be first out and I'm using mobile entry mid day on a weekend. So hoping for the best.

KE says in writing they will check to the final destination.... and I gave up with UA telling me they only have arrangements with *A and NO other airlines which is not true.
If everything is on time, it sounds like you're likely to be OK.

UA is quoting you the policy for checking bags on separate tickets if your first flight is UA. In this case, it's KE's policy that applies. Because KE and UA have an interline baggage agreement, if KE chooses to interline the bag to UA, UA has already agreed to accept it. Payment is worked out behind the scenes by the two airlines.
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Old Mar 27, 18, 11:07 pm
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If everything is on time, it sounds like you're likely to be OK.

UA is quoting you the policy for checking bags on separate tickets if your first flight is UA. In this case, it's KE's policy that applies. Because KE and UA have an interline baggage agreement, if KE chooses to interline the bag to UA, UA has already agreed to accept it. Payment is worked out behind the scenes by the two airlines.
can UA hire you in some capacity? 😁 I tried explaining that with no luck. Thank you for the good advice.

I was just nervous the bag would get kicked out of the system and they'd make me go back to the curb to pay $25 and re-check and had no clue if they could take funds at midfield. Your explanation has been very helpful.
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Old Mar 27, 18, 11:13 pm
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Old Mar 27, 18, 11:42 pm
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can UA hire you in some capacity? I tried explaining that with no luck. Thank you for the good advice.

I was just nervous the bag would get kicked out of the system and they'd make me go back to the curb to pay $25 and re-check and had no clue if they could take funds at midfield. Your explanation has been very helpful.
Happy to help. I don't think UA would pay what I'd charge. Kidding aside, UA actually has an internal help desk staffed with people who know these rules much better than I ever will. The problem is that many of the front-line support people don't engage with them, either because they don't understand the question, mistakenly believe that they know the answer already and don't need help, or just don't care.

Anyway, as long as your bags are tagged all the way through, you'll be fine. If they're only tagged to IAD, that's when you'd potentially have a problem.

Having said all of that, there is one further thing I should point out. I'm not at all convinced you'll be at the midfield terminal in the first place. I believe only connecting passengers from *A flights are processed there. I think all other passengers will go through the International Arrivals Building in the main terminal. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong (although the threads I've reviewed from the mid-atlantic forum seem to match my suspicion). This shouldn't change anything about whether or not you have to pay UA, but at least you'd be in the right place to do so if it were required... For example, this thread seemed to be updated fairly recently: IAD international to domestic transfer question
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Old Mar 28, 18, 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by jsloan View Post
Happy to help. I don't think UA would pay what I'd charge. Kidding aside, UA actually has an internal help desk staffed with people who know these rules much better than I ever will. The problem is that many of the front-line support people don't engage with them, either because they don't understand the question, mistakenly believe that they know the answer already and don't need help, or just don't care.

Anyway, as long as your bags are tagged all the way through, you'll be fine. If they're only tagged to IAD, that's when you'd potentially have a problem.

Having said all of that, there is one further thing I should point out. I'm not at all convinced you'll be at the midfield terminal in the first place. I believe only connecting passengers from *A flights are processed there. I think all other passengers will go through the International Arrivals Building in the main terminal. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong (although the threads I've reviewed from the mid-atlantic forum seem to match my suspicion). This shouldn't change anything about whether or not you have to pay UA, but at least you'd be in the right place to do so if it were required... For example, this thread seemed to be updated fairly recently: IAD international to domestic transfer question
Well that's interesting, because I posted here previously:

Consolidated Connection time/logistics-Domestic & International at IAD

and posters said I'd be using midfield (I did not update the thread to indicate that interline is permitted).
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Originally Posted by saaveraward View Post
Well that's interesting, because I posted here previously:

Consolidated Connection time/logistics-Domestic & International at IAD

and posters said I'd be using midfield (I did not update the thread to indicate that interline is permitted).
Yeah, I just reviewed the thread and I see what you mean. From a practical point of view, the instructions are easy: if you are able to get your bag checked to the final destination, and you see two signs when you get off of the plane -- one for transfers and one for passengers terminating in Washington -- follow the sign for transfers. But that isn't particularly useful information for advance planning.

I've done international to domestic at IAD, but only within *A, so I'm deferring to the experiences of others. Still, the main purpose of midfield clearance is to expedite connections for UA passengers, and I could easily see why that wouldn't be priority for non-*A airlines. I mean, if you're connecting from BA to AA or KE to DL or whatnot, taking a moon buggy over to the C terminal, and then going through security there, isn't particularly useful, since C/D is all-UA (and maybe AC?). You'd just have to hop on another moon buggy back.
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Old Mar 28, 18, 9:49 am
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Yeah, I just reviewed the thread and I see what you mean. From a practical point of view, the instructions are easy: if you are able to get your bag checked to the final destination, and you see two signs when you get off of the plane -- one for transfers and one for passengers terminating in Washington -- follow the sign for transfers. But that isn't particularly useful information for advance planning.

I've done international to domestic at IAD, but only within *A, so I'm deferring to the experiences of others. Still, the main purpose of midfield clearance is to expedite connections for UA passengers, and I could easily see why that wouldn't be priority for non-*A airlines. I mean, if you're connecting from BA to AA or KE to DL or whatnot, taking a moon buggy over to the C terminal, and then going through security there, isn't particularly useful, since C/D is all-UA (and maybe AC?). You'd just have to hop on another moon buggy back.
Called CBP at IAD. Want a job there too? You are correct about the IAB channel. So assuming the bag is still interlined, I'll drop it off at the counter or curbside whichever is shorter... Although, there's no point interlining the bag if it's just to save $25. And I have the 45 minute cutoff.

Then I'll have no priority going back through TSA so that's cutting it close.

Man, I set up going through IAD instead of JFK because I thought it would be easier. Guess not.

I hear the Turkish lounge on PP at IAD is nice... May be spending a few hours there.
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Old Mar 28, 18, 9:53 am
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OP - As a starting matter, you will not retrieve your bag at IAD midfield. Rather, as an arriving passenger on KE, you will retrieve your bag after immigration at the International Arrivals Building. After Customs, you will drop your bag with UA, head off to the TSA checkpoint and then head out to your UA departure gate at Concourse A, C, or D.

The confusion here is that UA simply receives the bag. If KE has tagged it as it says it will at ICN, you will simply drop it at UA and head off. If KE does not tag it, then you will need to wait at UA to check your bag and pay the fee. UA is not in the decision tree here at all.

Depending on the transfer time you have at IAD, you may want to reconsider. No idea whether you have Pre-Check, but the wait times at the security checkpoint can be quite long.
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Old Mar 28, 18, 10:25 am
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yeah, and not too thrilled about paying $69 for premier access if needed. No priority going back through TSA.
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