UA "Visit London" promotion at NY Penn Station
#16
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Washington DC
Posts: 1,357
I would not want to "win" 2 economy-class tickets to LHR -- why not offer a choice, either 2 E tickets or 1 J ticket! Of course, either would be taxable, but I'll take a single J ticket any day...
BTW, when UA reports this on the IRS form 1099-Misc, does UA use the lowest possible fare, or does UA use the highest, refundable fare?
BTW, when UA reports this on the IRS form 1099-Misc, does UA use the lowest possible fare, or does UA use the highest, refundable fare?
#17
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Chicago IL US
Programs: UA 1K; National Executive Elite; Hertz PC & Hotels Galore
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What does the real estate (exorbitant rent) cost for this location ?.......I will never understand UAL dumbing and cheapening everything else down yet they will maintain an expensive ticket office (and salaries) at Penn Station NYC. Who goes in there, people who want to change seat assignments ? Everyone does everything on line. As well, dozens of former "Continental" city ticket offices worldwide (especially RulesCentral America). Ridiculous and expensive at the expense of employees who should be getting comparable bonuses that other airlines are giving their employees.
#18
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Honolulu Harbor
Programs: UA 1K
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If I won airline tickets, I’d challenge any amount over what I could have purchased the trip for on the day I booked the travel.
Do not take this as advice - I ain’t no stinkin’ tax attorney.
As for 2 economy tickets, I rode back from LHR in a plane with full First, full Business, and maybe 1/3 occupied economy. UA seems to have more coach seats to give away than front cabin(s).
#19
Join Date: Dec 2004
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What does the real estate (exorbitant rent) cost for this location ?.......I will never understand UAL dumbing and cheapening everything else down yet they will maintain an expensive ticket office (and salaries) at Penn Station NYC. Who goes in there, people who want to change seat assignments ? Everyone does everything on line. As well, dozens of former "Continental" city ticket offices worldwide (especially Central America). Ridiculous and expensive at the expense of employees who should be getting comparable bonuses that other airlines are giving their employees.
#20
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Silicon wasteland
Programs: UA 1KMM
Posts: 1,381
You don't have to be a tax attorney to follow this logic. You pay taxes on the Fair market value (FMV) or what you could reasonably buy it for on the day the prize was awarded. The prize giver provides an approximate retail value (ARV), which is usually, but not always, overinflated. It's like the Price is Right -- nobody pays Manufacturers Suggested Retail Value, but that's what you have to bid.
You'll ideally want the sponsor to change their 1099 to reflect this. Some will, some won't. Barring that, it's a good idea to fill out a form 4598 to reflect said difference. But always have documentation.
To make it actionable for this thread, if you win the sweepstakes, go to UA.com that day and document (book your ticket and get a receipt then cancel, or just take screencap of final price ex-taxes) the pre-tax values for whatever dates you are going to fly. Ask that the 1099 be reflective of that.
#21
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: EWR
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Gold (Current Platinum), United Mileage Plus, Avis Preferred
Posts: 850
So when I stopped by this morning to submit my daily entry into the sweepstakes, I told the marketing folks at the booth that I see everyday about this thread with the pictures, and suggested they check it out. I asked them if they had noticed anyone taking pictures yesterday, and they mentioned they had seen some folks were taking pictures of the musicians, but they had to avoid being in the pictures because they are not supposed to be photographed.