Babyseat blocked recline
Mar 20, 2018, 4:27 pm
#76
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Reclining seats should be banned. I never recline my seat in economy and am very annoyed when people in front of me do. Reclining changes the angles of seat-back monitors and makes it harder to use your laptops sitting on tray tables. I wish airlines would just install fixed back seats in economy. That would eliminate all these issues
Mar 20, 2018, 5:41 pm
#77
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Reclining seats should be banned. I never recline my seat in economy and am very annoyed when people in front of me do. Reclining changes the angles of seat-back monitors and makes it harder to use your laptops sitting on tray tables. I wish airlines would just install fixed back seats in economy. That would eliminate all these issues
Mar 20, 2018, 5:58 pm
#78
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This isn’t a tremendously valuable post, but I’m still laughing tremendously that a post claimed that parents were selfish for bringing a baby on the plane with them. Pretty sure Flyertalk absurdity peaked right there and we can all go home.
Mar 20, 2018, 8:11 pm
#79
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It would be interesting to know if either of the parents reclined their seats while at the same time preventing the reclining of the seat ahead of the baby? A huge car seat (and most of them are huge) cannot properly be restrained with a lap belt - a tether strap is also needed to prevent the seat from rotating during turbulence or even just bumping into it but this is never brought up. If I buy an airline ticket I have certain expectations and because of back and height issue I cannot sit in an upright seat that doesn't recline for any length of time. The expectation of a reclining seat is a 'norm' for air travel (and this is validated by airlines indicating which seats don't recline when you choose your seat online). BTW I have grandchildren who fly but I, and thank goodness their parents as well, are not paranoid about what could happen if I don't tightly buckle them into a rear-facing seat. It is a risk not doing it but so is crossing the street pushing a baby-buggy (and most of the time the child is loosely belted in, if at all) which is inherently more dangerous due to speeding traffic, cars jumping curbs, uneven pavement and whatever but every parent does this on a constant basis without any worries.
Mar 20, 2018, 8:21 pm
#80
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Reclining seats should be banned. I never recline my seat in economy and am very annoyed when people in front of me do. Reclining changes the angles of seat-back monitors and makes it harder to use your laptops sitting on tray tables. I wish airlines would just install fixed back seats in economy. That would eliminate all these issues
Last edited by milepig; Mar 20, 2018 at 8:57 pm
Mar 20, 2018, 11:03 pm
#81
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There is a reason why some airlines reserve bulkhead rows for family with babies, so they can attach bassinets. Those same seats will accommodate car seats and NOT impede other passengers. This avoids the problem that is the basis of all the discussions on this thread.
UA bulkheads are all E+, and available to all, that contributes to the problem.
UA bulkheads are all E+, and available to all, that contributes to the problem.
Mar 20, 2018, 11:18 pm
#82
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There is a reason why some airlines reserve bulkhead rows for family with babies, so they can attach bassinets. Those same seats will accommodate car seats and NOT impede other passengers. This avoids the problem that is the basis of all the discussions on this thread.
UA bulkheads are all E+, and available to all, that contributes to the problem.
UA bulkheads are all E+, and available to all, that contributes to the problem.
Mar 20, 2018, 11:18 pm
#83
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I agree - seriously, bring a baby, seat in front of you gets compensation - come on.
Mar 20, 2018, 11:20 pm
#84
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Even more disgusting is that some who think parents are selfish for bringing a child on board see no problem at all in bringing a pet on board.
Mar 20, 2018, 11:32 pm
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Exactly. Hard to have a rational discussion about this topic with people who think that parents are being selfish for traveling with their children.
Mar 21, 2018, 6:41 am
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It would be interesting to know if either of the parents reclined their seats while at the same time preventing the reclining of the seat ahead of the baby? A huge car seat (and most of them are huge) cannot properly be restrained with a lap belt - a tether strap is also needed to prevent the seat from rotating during turbulence or even just bumping into it but this is never brought up. If I buy an airline ticket I have certain expectations and because of back and height issue I cannot sit in an upright seat that doesn't recline for any length of time. The expectation of a reclining seat is a 'norm' for air travel (and this is validated by airlines indicating which seats don't recline when you choose your seat online). BTW I have grandchildren who fly but I, and thank goodness their parents as well, are not paranoid about what could happen if I don't tightly buckle them into a rear-facing seat. It is a risk not doing it but so is crossing the street pushing a baby-buggy (and most of the time the child is loosely belted in, if at all) which is inherently more dangerous due to speeding traffic, cars jumping curbs, uneven pavement and whatever but every parent does this on a constant basis without any worries.
2. The expectation to have your child in a child seat overweighs yours of a recline
3. Read the physics of turbulence. It is not comparable to a baby-buggy. It is why you cannot have sometihng on your lap on take off and landing. Also the incidence of scalp burns on lap childs is high (requiring ER)
There is a reason why some airlines reserve bulkhead rows for family with babies, so they can attach bassinets. Those same seats will accommodate car seats and NOT impede other passengers. This avoids the problem that is the basis of all the discussions on this thread.
UA bulkheads are all E+, and available to all, that contributes to the problem.
UA bulkheads are all E+, and available to all, that contributes to the problem.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Mar 21, 2018 at 11:17 am
Mar 21, 2018, 7:43 am
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This is just an unfortunate fact of life when flying. Some people on the plane have their needs placed above yours. Whether its due to a baby seat or a dog or status, that's just the way it is. Sometimes it's the person being selfish or poor planning, sometimes there is simply no viable alternative.
I do agree, this is something best handled by a FA/GA. For example, if the flight isnt full, consider moving the baby to a seat where there is no one in front. Or moving the OP to another open seat.
I do agree, this is something best handled by a FA/GA. For example, if the flight isnt full, consider moving the baby to a seat where there is no one in front. Or moving the OP to another open seat.
Mar 21, 2018, 9:00 am
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Mar 21, 2018, 9:03 am
#90
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UA does have Bassinets on their flights, but that is limited to which airplane you are travelling on. Not all types of aircrafts are equipped to have bassinets. Typically this is only available on wide-bodied aircraft. I'm sure it's the same for other US carriers.