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Old Feb 13, 2018, 4:31 pm
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2018 MP earning changes (AV, ET - Feb, LH group, all fares atleast 100% PQM - March)

My change alerts for UA's MilagePlus accrual websites have been lighting up the past couple of days as UA changes PQM & RDM earnings across its partners.

Here's a summary of the changes:

Lufthansa (on flights flown on or after March 1, 2018)
  • K booking class now earns 25% RDU and 100% PQM but no premier qualifying segments (used to earn nothing)

Avianca RDU Accumulation on non-UA issued stock




Avianca New PQM Qualification




Ethiopian Airlines RDU


Ethiopian Airlines PQM Qualification



Safe Travels,

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Old Feb 13, 2018, 4:49 pm
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Also seems to impact fares LX/OS

Originally Posted by mduell
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Thanks for the heads up the images (accidentally pasted image in on post).

Changes also seem to cut deep into the LH Group of Airlines.

Swiss RDU Earnings:



Swiss PQM Earnings:



Austrian RDU Earnings


Austrian PQM Earnings



Safe Travels,

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Old Feb 13, 2018, 5:04 pm
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K class Lufthansa now earns 100% PQM on United after March 1? Why didn't they implement this earlier especially since Swiss K already earns 100% PQM. Would have been nice if this was put in before the start of this year.

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Old Feb 13, 2018, 5:10 pm
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Wow. Looks like all LH Group fares now earn 100% PQM (which you would expect for a JV partner). While this is a nice change for the positive, I am getting really tired of short-notice changes to earning which are ex post facto if you purchased tickets in advance, because sometimes they are cuts.
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Old Feb 13, 2018, 5:16 pm
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Originally Posted by findark
Wow. Looks like all LH Group fares now earn 100% PQM (which you would expect for a JV partner). While this is a nice change for the positive, I am getting really tired of short-notice changes to earning which are ex post facto if you purchased tickets in advance, because sometimes they are cuts.
Agreed on that point. I think they should make the changes based on ticketed date (rather than flight date) to give their loyalist more certainty when booking. A lot of travellers stay loyal to an airline and pay the small difference in fare on the reliance that they will earn the miles specified at the time of booking.

That being said these are good changes for the LH Airlines Group and I hope it remains that way for the 3-Star airlines (UA, LH Group, and AC). It's always nice to know you'll earn 100% milage on rev flights.

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Old Feb 17, 2018, 1:53 am
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Updated earning charts for *A partners (JV)

Just wanted to point out there have been some major changes in earning charts for *A partners (mainly JV - LX, LH, OS) during the past weeks.
Mainly - K class on LH FINALLY earns 100% PQM (25 % RDM) - starting 3/1; K also drops from 50% RDM to 25% on OS and LX. There is no mention of RDM bonus for Premier members on either of the charts which might be major devaluation for people not booking flights on 016 ticket stock.
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Old Feb 17, 2018, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by nycvisitor
Just wanted to point out there have been some major changes in earning charts for *A partners (mainly JV - LX, LH, OS) during the past weeks.
Mainly - K class on LH FINALLY earns 100% PQM (25 % RDM) - starting 3/1; K also drops from 50% RDM to 25% on OS and LX. There is no mention of RDM bonus for Premier members on either of the charts which might be major devaluation for people not booking flights on 016 ticket stock.
Thanks. I hadn’t heard. Time to update my spreadsheet!
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Old Feb 17, 2018, 8:55 am
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How do PQD factor into this?
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Old Feb 17, 2018, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by jp12687
How do PQD factor into this?
Needs to be 016 ticket to earn PQD
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Old Feb 17, 2018, 11:07 am
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I love how they call themselves a global airline as they cut routes and push us to partners while cutting partner earnings at the same time. I guess this is finally an improvement for some
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Old Nov 26, 2018, 8:13 am
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I bought tickets to Europe on Expedia.com for next month. I just realized it is ticketed as LH K class although it is UA-operated flight (not code-shared, a UA fight number).I will be a couple miles short from making 1K again, so I am really nervous about the PQMs. I don't need more qualifying segments, but the PQM is important. Do you think I will be ok? Does it make any difference if it is a UA-operated flight for LH flights (both ticketed on LH-issued tickets).
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Old Nov 26, 2018, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by pollyG
I bought tickets to Europe on Expedia.com for next month. I just realized it is ticketed as LH K class although it is UA-operated flight (not code-shared, a UA fight number).I will be a couple miles short from making 1K again, so I am really nervous about the PQMs. I don't need more qualifying segments, but the PQM is important. Do you think I will be ok? Does it make any difference if it is a UA-operated flight for LH flights (both ticketed on LH-issued tickets).
If it is a UA flight number booked in K class, it's UA K class, not LH K class. Regardless:
  • In Star Alliance, only the operating carrier matters
  • Either LH or UA K class would earn 100% of flown distance for PQMs
So, yes, you should be fine. ^
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Old Nov 26, 2018, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by jsloan
If it is a UA flight number booked in K class, it's UA K class, not LH K class. Regardless:
  • In Star Alliance, only the operating carrier matters
  • Either LH or UA K class would earn 100% of flown distance for PQMs
So, yes, you should be fine. ^
Originally Posted by pollyG
I bought tickets to Europe on Expedia.com for next month. I just realized it is ticketed as LH K class although it is UA-operated flight (not code-shared, a UA fight number).I will be a couple miles short from making 1K again, so I am really nervous about the PQMs. I don't need more qualifying segments, but the PQM is important. Do you think I will be ok? Does it make any difference if it is a UA-operated flight for LH flights (both ticketed on LH-issued tickets).
Thank you very much for reply. I just realized my trans-atlantic flight actualy has a SN flight number but operated by UA. Based on your reply I understand it will earn 100% PQMs.

For RDMs, will it be 11 x fare for 1K? Is the receipt pulled from UA's website reliable? It said I would earn 11 Award miles for this SN-code shared K class flight (operated by UA). It means UA only got $1 for this flight? UA's receipt also said I needed to pay for the luggage for this flight. I am so confused.
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Old Nov 26, 2018, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by pollyG
Thank you very much for reply. I just realized my trans-atlantic flight actualy has a SN flight number but operated by UA. Based on your reply I understand it will earn 100% PQMs.

For RDMs, will it be 11 x fare for 1K? Is the receipt pulled from UA's website reliable? It said I would earn 11 Award miles for this SN-code shared K class flight (operated by UA). It means UA only got $1 for this flight? UA's receipt also said I needed to pay for the luggage for this flight. I am so confused.
Yes, you'll get 100% PQMs, and yes, you'll get 11x the fare. The problem with a ticket not issued by UA is that they can break up the fare pretty much however they want. $1 does sound like a mistake, although it would be hard to show definitively what it should be instead, assuming there's a non-UA connection involved. It's entirely possible that the fare is $1 for that portion of the flight; however, that excludes the fuel surcharge, which should be included for the purposes of this calculation... but, again, there's not really any good way to show how the surcharge should be allocated between the UA flight and the non-UA flights in that direction of travel.
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