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mgerber8 Feb 7, 2018 9:49 am

Which Transcon Flight from LAX to Choose?
 
My fiancee and I will be arriving at LAX in the mid-morning in May, off of a redeye on Air Tahiti Nui. We then plan to use United miles to book separate tickets in first/business class for the final transcontinental leg to get home to the East Coast. Our preferred final destination is PHL, since we live about 30 minutes from there, but we're willing to fly into EWR instead (about 90 minutes from home) if it's going to be a significantly better experience. Because we live close to PHL, we usually fly AA. I don't have a good sense of UA's service on the flights we're looking at.

Which of the following would you choose?

Option 1: LAX-EWR nonstop
This would be in business class with p.s. service. We'd appreciate the lie-flat seats, and upgraded amenities, but those aren't crucial since it's a daytime flight. Arrival at EWR is around 11:00 pm, with a 90 minute drive home after that.

Option 2: LAX-DEN-PHL (1 hour connection in DEN)
We'd be in domestic first class on both legs of this flight. This option is 10,000 fewer miles per person, and puts us at PHL at almost the same time we would have arrived at EWR on the nonstop LAX-EWR option. We get the benefit of saving an hour on the drive home, but there is the loss of p.s. service and fact that it involves a connection (I'm assuming 1 hour is sufficient at DEN?). The LAX-DEN leg currently indicates that it will have a 777-200 with lie-flat seats, so at least we should have those for a short portion of the journey. It's then a 737-800 for DEN-PHL.

I can't decide if it's better to get home earlier by arriving at our preferred airport and saving 10,000 miles per person, while making a connection and potentially sacrificing service/amenities. Would you rather do that, or use more miles, get home later, and at least have the nonstop p.s. service into EWR?

TA Feb 7, 2018 9:55 am

I don't think the P.S. service is that good to distort your travel + pay more for it.

Kacee Feb 7, 2018 9:58 am

A domestic F recliner on a UA 737 will be brutal after an overnight long-haul. Given that the PHL option involves an additional connection, I would go for lie-flats LAX-EWR.

IAH-OIL-TRASH Feb 7, 2018 10:02 am

If you have the 120K miles and don't mind using them for Everyday awards, go for the lie-flats. Your chances for saver awards are not much better than zero. Even just two or three hours of sleep make a huge difference on arrival on East Coast.

threeoh Feb 7, 2018 10:32 am

I think it's worth about 10,000 miles just to avoid a connection, and the lie-flat on a day flight after a red-eye seems definitely worth it separately.

I'm confused about where your car is parked, though.

laxmillenial Feb 7, 2018 10:40 am

Flying PS Business out of LAX will get you admittance into the LAX United Club before departure.
The lie-flat seats will help with jetlag.
It's a nonstop, less chance of something happening/IRROP. Can you imagine how you'd feel if you missed your connection at DEN.
The amtrak ride from EWR-PHL or Uber? Or however you're going to do it... =(

I would take the PS flight. In fact when traveling to Philadelphia, I always do LAX-EWR-ZFV. It's just easier and less stressful than connecting. Amtrak has always been able to move me up to an earlier train without any issues.

mgerber8 Feb 7, 2018 10:41 am


Originally Posted by threeoh (Post 29390367)
I think it's worth about 10,000 miles just to avoid a connection, and the lie-flat on a day flight after a red-eye seems definitely worth it separately.

I'm confused about where your car is parked, though.

We won't have a car parked at either airport - we already have a generous offer to pick us up from the further-from-home EWR if needed, so if we went with the PHL arrival instead, it would be an unexpected (but nice) convenience to the person picking us up as well.

mahasamatman Feb 7, 2018 10:44 am


Originally Posted by threeoh (Post 29390367)
I think it's worth about 10,000 miles just to avoid a connection

And add a 90-minute drive? No way. I would consider a long drive after a long flight is a terrible idea.

IAH-OIL-TRASH Feb 7, 2018 10:53 am


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 29390431)
And add a 90-minute drive? No way. I would consider a long drive after a long flight is a terrible idea.

Yeah, but the choice is lie-flat and 90-min drive or two domestic F flights and (to make a comfortable connection) 90-min layover in DEN. And someone else is driving.

thejaredhuang Feb 7, 2018 11:48 am

ZFV, you get PS to EWR and a train ride to the 30th Street Station in PHL.

764toHI Feb 7, 2018 11:55 am

For those suggesting Amtrak, the OP mentions that his/her desired LAX-EWR flight will arrive at ~11pm, which would allow for only one possible weekday connection to a Keystone service at 11:37pm arriving 30th Street Station at 12:40am.

findark Feb 7, 2018 12:52 pm

If you have a ride back from EWR and don't mind the exorbitant miles cost for a p.s. Standard Award, then by all means take the lie-flat. Much more comfortable seats, avoid LAX-DEN (which I think is full-time Snacked now?), avoid DEN catering, get UC access in LAX (although also poke your head in the *A lounge at TBIT)... the list of positives goes on.

drew in the air Feb 7, 2018 12:52 pm

Another vote tor EWR-LAX. ps and lie flat service... includes a sundae also!

I think someone else mentioned it also, but you don't have much room for late departure from LAX with only a 1 hour connection in Denver before missing your connection.

kale73 Feb 7, 2018 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 29390431)
And add a 90-minute drive? No way. I would consider a long drive after a long flight is a terrible idea.

90 minutes isn't long. My shortest post-flight drive home is ~3-1/2 hours.

skylane Feb 7, 2018 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by thejaredhuang (Post 29390706)
ZFV, you get PS to EWR and a train ride to the 30th Street Station in PHL.

I'd second the ZFV option. Fly into EWR and take the train down to Philly. However, can you get the Amtrak ticket on an award ticket?

mahasamatman Feb 7, 2018 2:55 pm


Originally Posted by kale73 (Post 29391050)
90 minutes isn't long.

It would be to me.


Originally Posted by kale73 (Post 29391050)
My shortest post-flight drive home is ~3-1/2 hours.

Your choice.

dmurphynj Feb 7, 2018 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by kale73 (Post 29391050)
90 minutes isn't long. My shortest post-flight drive home is ~3-1/2 hours.

wow - where are you located, where the nearest airport is 3 1/2 hours away?

rittenhousesq Feb 7, 2018 6:15 pm

Also keep in mind that UA does not have first class catering out of DEN for the time being, so on your DEN-PHL flight you would merely be served the same food as offered from the buy on board selections in coach.
You should do the flight to EWR; much better experience.

kale73 Feb 7, 2018 6:39 pm


Originally Posted by dmurphynj (Post 29391663)
wow - where are you located, where the nearest airport is 3 1/2 hours away?

NE Arizona. Nearest airports that United serves are ABQ and DRO. I could cut my drive time to about 2:45 by taking AA out of FLG, but I'd just as well drive two more hours and fly out of PHX, which is the only place AA flies from FLG anyway.

Now, if someone wanted to start commercial service out of GLP, I'd probably switch to that airline. That's only a one hour drive. :D

sanfran8080 Feb 7, 2018 7:56 pm

Just stay in Tahiti.....to many problems when u return home

riphamilton Feb 7, 2018 7:57 pm


Originally Posted by laxmillenial (Post 29390410)
I would take the PS flight. In fact when traveling to Philadelphia, I always do LAX-EWR-ZFV. It's just easier and less stressful than connecting. Amtrak has always been able to move me up to an earlier train without any issues.

this is the correct answer!

SS255 Feb 7, 2018 8:31 pm


Originally Posted by thejaredhuang (Post 29390706)
ZFV, you get PS to EWR and a train ride to the 30th Street Station in PHL.

The OP may not live in (or even near) Center City.

dmurphynj Feb 7, 2018 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by kale73 (Post 29392182)
NE Arizona. Nearest airports that United serves are ABQ and DRO. I could cut my drive time to about 2:45 by taking AA out of FLG, but I'd just as well drive two more hours and fly out of PHX, which is the only place AA flies from FLG anyway.

Now, if someone wanted to start commercial service out of GLP, I'd probably switch to that airline. That's only a one hour drive. :D

Yikes! That’s fairly unusual to be this far from a commercially served airport. Couldn’t imagine doing that as much as we fly!

Phil Level Feb 8, 2018 5:56 pm

How about Option 3? I'd take the LAX-EWR and then zip into NYC for a night or two as a finale for your trip with Fiancee. Then take Amtrak to Philly and get home at a reasonable hour.

Flying Machine Feb 10, 2018 4:45 pm

Another option is LAX-IAD-PHL

Dublin_rfk Feb 10, 2018 5:05 pm


Originally Posted by SS255 (Post 29392456)


The OP may not live in (or even near) Center City.

the OP may not live in/near center city BUT their good friend who be driving would appreciate not driving to EWR.

Dublin_rfk Feb 10, 2018 5:14 pm

A transcon with lieflat seats beats any F seat. @Flying Machine ‘ s idea of LAX-iAD-PHL is better than LAX-EWR.

Dublin_rfk Feb 10, 2018 5:26 pm

A transcon lieflat beats a mid con stop with barco loungers. LAX-IAD-PHL depending on IAD arrival sounds good.


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