Should I Fly UA Polaris Or LH Business
Feb 4, 2018, 2:41 pm
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Well if you read my entire post you would notice that I said I was only talking about food. Of course everything else in LH F such as service, seat, etc is worlds better than UA. But LH J is not as great as UA J. Everything about it such as the seats where you play footsie, to the so-so service, and especially the awful food.
But Im not sure where you're getting the general consensus of LH J food being better than UA, as most things that I've read and experienced myself are quite the opposite. Their F food is better then what they offer in J, but still not too great IMO.
But Im not sure where you're getting the general consensus of LH J food being better than UA, as most things that I've read and experienced myself are quite the opposite. Their F food is better then what they offer in J, but still not too great IMO.
I am flying TATL very regularly and LH J food on average is much better than UA. The booze is always much better. No one is arguing with the seat as long as we are talking PMCO seats. I don't like the LH J seat either.
LH F is better on every single aspect of the product, I have flown it 8 times last year and it consistently delivers an amazing experience.
Feb 4, 2018, 4:00 pm
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LH J seats are awful, feet right next to the person next to you. If you don't know them, prepare for some awkwardness when you inevitably bump knees. The IFE screen quality is poor too IMO. The food and service are better than UA, but I've had meals on UA comparable to LH J. I don't drink so I can't speak to alcohol.
If we're talking the new Polaris seats, take those and don't look back. If we're talking PMCO J seats, I'd take those over LH J too. PMUA J seats and LH J seats both suck IMO. I'd just pick the better flight times.
If we're talking the new Polaris seats, take those and don't look back. If we're talking PMCO J seats, I'd take those over LH J too. PMUA J seats and LH J seats both suck IMO. I'd just pick the better flight times.
Feb 4, 2018, 5:37 pm
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Re: LH...just to reiterate something that someone noted above: the footsie problem is only present on some seats and on some planes. Check seat maps on any flight you're booking to be sure. To say "I can't fly LH J because of footsie" is kind of like saying "I can't fly UA J because of 4-across coffins".
I personally am almost exactly indifferent between LH J and UA J. For my purposes, both are fine -- I get edible food and a place to sleep that is vastly better than sitting up in Y but much worse than a Motel 6 bed. I'm close to million-miler status, so I choose UA when possible. But either choice is reasonable depending on personal tastes.
I personally am almost exactly indifferent between LH J and UA J. For my purposes, both are fine -- I get edible food and a place to sleep that is vastly better than sitting up in Y but much worse than a Motel 6 bed. I'm close to million-miler status, so I choose UA when possible. But either choice is reasonable depending on personal tastes.
Feb 5, 2018, 6:11 am
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The 77W routes are published and well known. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...re-routes.html
... real Polaris not found.The 4 across coffins are everywhere ... unless you can avoid 777s. It's a very real threat IMO and an excellent reason to steer well clear of UA altogether.
Feb 5, 2018, 7:08 am
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It is interesting that everyone praised these seats 11 years ago when they were introduced. UA can't just reconfigure the fleet overnight. I would prefer the 8 across seats in C (even a middle one) to an economy seat any day of the week.
Feb 5, 2018, 9:59 am
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While you certainly have a point ... I always hated them. I found the ancient recliners a lot better to read and work. Another reason why I am so pleased with Premium Economy.
Feb 5, 2018, 1:54 pm
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well, not quite 42 out of roughly 150 transoceanatic aircraft (not counting 752 used TATL or Hawaii aircraft) -- adjusting for capacity --- maybe 1/3th of the total capacity is and on those 772 sUA, the 4-cross is half the seats and the vile middle 2 is 1/3 of the aircraft's business cabin.
This varies based on route, as a 772 dedicated route is what it is but system-wide is far less of an issue. Looking at the remaining fleet there is still the issue of non-aisle for many seats.
This varies based on route, as a 772 dedicated route is what it is but system-wide is far less of an issue. Looking at the remaining fleet there is still the issue of non-aisle for many seats.
Feb 8, 2018, 12:00 am
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I have never been on a UA 777W and hence would be unwilling to pay for the UA Biz seat.
You are right ... it was a temporary thing.
Feb 8, 2018, 6:42 am
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Well possible but am I correct in stating that the all-aisle-access business which I naively term as "true Polaris" only exists on the 777W? The 787s and 767s all have a more ancient climb-over business product.
I have never been on a UA 777W and hence would be unwilling to pay for the UA Biz seat.
I have never been on a UA 777W and hence would be unwilling to pay for the UA Biz seat.
Feb 8, 2018, 1:59 pm
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Well possible but am I correct in stating that the all-aisle-access business which I naively term as "true Polaris" only exists on the 777W? The 787s and 767s all have a more ancient climb-over business product.
] well, not quite 42 out of roughly 150 transoceanatic aircraft (not counting 752 used TATL or Hawaii aircraft) -- adjusting for capacity --- maybe 1/3th of the total capacity is and on those 772 sUA , the 4-cross is half the seats and the vile middle 2 is 1/3 of the aircraft's business cabin.
This varies based on route, as a 772 dedicated route is what it is but system-wide is far less of an issue. Looking at the remaining fleet there is still the issue of non-aisle for many seats.
This varies based on route, as a 772 dedicated route is what it is but system-wide is far less of an issue. Looking at the remaining fleet there is still the issue of non-aisle for many seats.
Althought some UA TATL aircraft are now starting to operate with all aisle access. Increased with the newly reconfigured 763s.
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Feb 8, 2018, 2:29 pm
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Althought some UA TATL aircraft are now starting to operate with all aisle access. Increased with the newly reconfigured 763s.
Feb 8, 2018, 2:43 pm
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