United showing fares roundtrip on united.com
Jan 21, 2018, 5:45 pm
#61
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No. A RT G fare in a market without any one-way G fares will still be written with combinability rules to allow it to be used on a half-round-trip basis in conjunction with any other UA fare -- the total price would be half the roundtrip G fare plus the cost of the second leg, no matter what fare class the second leg was in. It doesn't have to be written this way, but I've never seen an example where it wasn't. In other words, if you can get a G fare on some flight as part of a round-trip, you'll be able to get it on that flight no matter which return flight you select.
Jan 21, 2018, 6:09 pm
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No. A RT G fare in a market without any one-way G fares will still be written with combinability rules to allow it to be used on a half-round-trip basis in conjunction with any other UA fare -- the total price would be half the roundtrip G fare plus the cost of the second leg, no matter what fare class the second leg was in.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/
CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/NH
IN RULE JE26 IN ANY TARIFF.
Jan 21, 2018, 6:33 pm
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Not exactly that scenario, but there are JV fares, particularly to TYO, that do not combine on a half RT basis except with much higher fares. I've bumped into this many times trying to create, for example, an SFO-HKG//NRT-SFO OJ. If purchasing a a W on the outbound SFO-HKG, you can often only combine that with a Q or an H (or higher) on the return. Here's the restriction that prevents you, for example, combining it with a W (WLXRNA1) NRT-SFO:
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/
CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/NH
IN RULE JE26 IN ANY TARIFF.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/
CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/NH
IN RULE JE26 IN ANY TARIFF.
My original comment was a response to the suggestions that there are some low fares that are only available with inconvenient timing, and that the new UI was somehow going to force either the bad times or higher prices onto them. Those comments are just out of line with reality.
Jan 21, 2018, 6:50 pm
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It was terrible under the old UI . . . you'd see a super low fare (around $500) for the first segment, then when you clicked through, the RT price would jump to like $1500, with a very limited number of flight options. So this is a great example of a situation where the new UI will provide a more accurate picture right from the start.
Jan 22, 2018, 10:51 am
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911 call avoided.
Jan 22, 2018, 11:16 am
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Eh, this is not really to my taste, but it seems lots of other people are happy about it. I frequently book mixed itineraries, and this seems much more confusing for that use case. You could get a RT number before if you used the flexible dates tool, so they've probably just applied the code from that to the regular search now. Since they have both built out, it would be nice if they provided an option.
Jan 22, 2018, 12:16 pm
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Eh, this is not really to my taste, but it seems lots of other people are happy about it. I frequently book mixed itineraries, and this seems much more confusing for that use case. You could get a RT number before if you used the flexible dates tool, so they've probably just applied the code from that to the regular search now. Since they have both built out, it would be nice if they provided an option.
What I do think is valuable is that when selecting a leg (applies more to multi-city and OJ I think), the new running total you see when selecting said segment it right there where you click on it, even though you haven't gotten to the final segment.
I was able to book a Y/Y/F multi-city today and found the way the fares were presented to be useful (even though temporarily surprised earlier by the $668 SFO/PDX quote).
Jan 22, 2018, 3:16 pm
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I don't find it particularly useful, particularly if looking to buy different legs in different classes (e.g., if R is available on some but not others) but suppose it can be lived with and managed around
Jan 23, 2018, 2:59 pm
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I wish I had a choice on United.com or the app that allowed me to price either by segment or by round trip.
I’m now searching for a website or subscription service that gives me more freedom (and speed) to search for fares as I wish and even to book a trip.
I’m now searching for a website or subscription service that gives me more freedom (and speed) to search for fares as I wish and even to book a trip.
Jan 23, 2018, 3:32 pm
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I always just use a combination of ITA Matrix and ExpertFlyer fare tables if I am doing anything even remotely complicated. It's easy to force a specific itinerary on .bomb once you know what it is.
Jan 23, 2018, 4:16 pm
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I don't like the return to RT pricing, as I also like to book mixed itineraries, and it is more difficult for me to wade thru all the RT fares on both outbound and return.
Jan 24, 2018, 4:59 pm
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I don't like the RT pricing either, but I see some of you do and I can imagine that many folks who don't fly frequently find it preferable. My hope is that UA will add an option so that we can select whether we want to see RT or OW fares. I've written to 1kvoice to share that recommendation. Fingers crossed!
Jan 25, 2018, 2:22 pm
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Is it just me or before this change could you the Details/Seat Map of your outbound flight on the page when choosing a return flight?
Jan 25, 2018, 2:58 pm
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I don't like the RT pricing either, but I see some of you do and I can imagine that many folks who don't fly frequently find it preferable. My hope is that UA will add an option so that we can select whether we want to see RT or OW fares. I've written to 1kvoice to share that recommendation. Fingers crossed!
But if you are trying to understand more granular details of a trip and pricing options this is worse. Especially if I am looking at one side of my trip being fixed, so want to know that segment cost, and playing around with the rest. You can still get at the numbers via math or the details page once you have an trip selected and look at PQD per segment.