Oct 29, 2018, 2:14 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
UA has started installing Premium Plus / Premium Economy seats in 772s and 773s. Other long haul aircraft will also be receiving these new seats.
For 77x it is a 2-4-2 (vs economy 3-4-3) with 3 rows - 24 seats
For 76x it is believe it will be 2-2-2 (vs 2-3-2) with 3 rows ( and maybe a partial row) - 22 seats
For 78x it is believed it will be 2-3-2 (vs 3-3-3) with 3 rows - 21 seats
UA has not yet started selling this new cabin but has restructured its fare class -- which appears to be in preparation of selling the new cabin (and removed 3-class F)
In the meantime, the Premium Plus cabin is being treated as an extension of E+ and those with E+ access can select the new seats.
In many cases UA is initially using an interim seat maps, such as https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1926142-interim-772-seat-map-polaris-potentially-premium-economy-2018-a.html
Things start to firm up about 2 days prior but last minute changes can happen
For 77x it is a 2-4-2 (vs economy 3-4-3) with 3 rows - 24 seats
For 76x it is believe it will be 2-2-2 (vs 2-3-2) with 3 rows ( and maybe a partial row) - 22 seats
For 78x it is believed it will be 2-3-2 (vs 3-3-3) with 3 rows - 21 seats
UA has not yet started selling this new cabin but has restructured its fare class -- which appears to be in preparation of selling the new cabin (and removed 3-class F)
In the meantime, the Premium Plus cabin is being treated as an extension of E+ and those with E+ access can select the new seats.
In many cases UA is initially using an interim seat maps, such as https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1926142-interim-772-seat-map-polaris-potentially-premium-economy-2018-a.html
Things start to firm up about 2 days prior but last minute changes can happen
Real Premium Economy is Coming [Update: UA studying "Real" Prem Y in domestic market]
Jun 24, 2018, 7:14 am
#721
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good catch phkc on the new plane and seating area. I note that particular one is a pretty full flight!
It will be good to get a sense from people involved in these equipment swaps how the P+ seats were distributed. Example - we seem to know how the remaining global First seats in the 763s are being given out (i.e., increasingly through instrument supported upgrades close to the flight date).
If the seat map above is to be believed, the whole P+ cabin has been assigned ...
It will be good to get a sense from people involved in these equipment swaps how the P+ seats were distributed. Example - we seem to know how the remaining global First seats in the 763s are being given out (i.e., increasingly through instrument supported upgrades close to the flight date).
If the seat map above is to be believed, the whole P+ cabin has been assigned ...
Jun 24, 2018, 9:09 am
#722
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In addition to a small handful of lucky recipients of free PE seats, there will be lots of unhappy campers in the back who have had their seat assignments scrambled and are now 10 across in Y.
Jun 24, 2018, 9:20 am
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Jun 24, 2018, 9:28 am
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Jun 24, 2018, 12:49 pm
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It will be good to get a sense from people involved in these equipment swaps how the P+ seats were distributed. Example - we seem to know how the remaining global First seats in the 763s are being given out (i.e., increasingly through instrument supported upgrades close to the flight date).
Jun 24, 2018, 1:19 pm
#726
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I’d say “cautious” rather than lazy. If the flight goes MX, they won’t have to worry about people getting angry that they paid an extra $200+ for a seat that wound up identical to the ones a couple of rows behind.
Jun 24, 2018, 7:18 pm
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They charge different prices for window/middle/aisle/exit row/etc, so I figured they could just charge a slightly higher price for the seats in the PE section, but looks like they can't/won't/didn't.
Jun 24, 2018, 7:29 pm
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I would guess didn't — as they seem to struggle to get out ahead of any changes including ones they make themselves — but perhaps it will be won't.
Jun 24, 2018, 7:57 pm
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Jun 24, 2018, 9:12 pm
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I think you're missing the point. They can't charge more for a PE seat right now because with only one PE aircraft in the entire fleet, there is no guaranty you will get a PE seat. They can however, guaranty an aircraft with E+, so they're just leveling normal E+ charges.
Jun 25, 2018, 6:13 pm
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Pictures of Premium Economy seats
I would want the bulkhead for the footrest. Why did United only do that for the first row? Compare to SQ pic
https://www.sfgate.com/chris-mcginni...-85307-tbla-45
https://www.sfgate.com/chris-mcginni...-85307-tbla-45
Jun 25, 2018, 6:27 pm
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I would want the bulkhead for the footrest. Why did United only do that for the first row? Compare to SQ pic
https://www.sfgate.com/chris-mcginni...-85307-tbla-45
https://www.sfgate.com/chris-mcginni...-85307-tbla-45
Jun 25, 2018, 6:31 pm
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I would want the bulkhead for the footrest. Why did United only do that for the first row? Compare to SQ pic
https://www.sfgate.com/chris-mcginni...-85307-tbla-45
https://www.sfgate.com/chris-mcginni...-85307-tbla-45
Delta, the seats are all like the bulkhead on UA see https://thepointsguy.com/2017/10/up-...remium-select/ Ditto other airlines (expect I think AA did the same cheap thing that UA has done. Birds of a HP feather, flock together....)
Jun 26, 2018, 3:40 am
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WOW. I am really, really surprised they have that much difference. The bulkhead seats are typical PE seats, the rest, not so much.... If they want to charge a premium, the tight legroom and little dinky "foot" rest is NOT going to cut it. I guess is not surprising, it is United after all, and they do everything doller-general style, but just surprising to see it in the flesh, given that other carriers have not done this kind of cheapo thing...
Delta, the seats are all like the bulkhead on UA see https://thepointsguy.com/2017/10/up-...remium-select/ Ditto other airlines (expect I think AA did the same cheap thing that UA has done. Birds of a HP feather, flock together....)
Delta, the seats are all like the bulkhead on UA see https://thepointsguy.com/2017/10/up-...remium-select/ Ditto other airlines (expect I think AA did the same cheap thing that UA has done. Birds of a HP feather, flock together....)
This is much better than what a lot of airlines offer, including American who have no leg rests in non-bulkhead seats.
You can see that the UA seat behind has a leg rest, which is actually full width unlike the SQ seat. Both are clearly better than the AA seat which you can see has no leg rest at all.
Last edited by Agremeister; Jun 26, 2018 at 4:06 am
Jun 26, 2018, 7:40 am
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Is W booking class reserved for PE
I am trying to book GPU-eligible W fare flights to China for a friend. The flights never came out when I typed in "W" on booking class. So, I typed in "W,V," booking code, the flights with V booking code showed up. I had similar experiences with other routes recently. Anyone else?