Oct 29, 2018, 2:14 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
UA has started installing Premium Plus / Premium Economy seats in 772s and 773s. Other long haul aircraft will also be receiving these new seats.
For 77x it is a 2-4-2 (vs economy 3-4-3) with 3 rows - 24 seats
For 76x it is believe it will be 2-2-2 (vs 2-3-2) with 3 rows ( and maybe a partial row) - 22 seats
For 78x it is believed it will be 2-3-2 (vs 3-3-3) with 3 rows - 21 seats
UA has not yet started selling this new cabin but has restructured its fare class -- which appears to be in preparation of selling the new cabin (and removed 3-class F)
In the meantime, the Premium Plus cabin is being treated as an extension of E+ and those with E+ access can select the new seats.
In many cases UA is initially using an interim seat maps, such as https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1926142-interim-772-seat-map-polaris-potentially-premium-economy-2018-a.html
Things start to firm up about 2 days prior but last minute changes can happen
For 77x it is a 2-4-2 (vs economy 3-4-3) with 3 rows - 24 seats
For 76x it is believe it will be 2-2-2 (vs 2-3-2) with 3 rows ( and maybe a partial row) - 22 seats
For 78x it is believed it will be 2-3-2 (vs 3-3-3) with 3 rows - 21 seats
UA has not yet started selling this new cabin but has restructured its fare class -- which appears to be in preparation of selling the new cabin (and removed 3-class F)
In the meantime, the Premium Plus cabin is being treated as an extension of E+ and those with E+ access can select the new seats.
In many cases UA is initially using an interim seat maps, such as https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1926142-interim-772-seat-map-polaris-potentially-premium-economy-2018-a.html
Things start to firm up about 2 days prior but last minute changes can happen
Real Premium Economy is Coming [Update: UA studying "Real" Prem Y in domestic market]
Jun 26, 2018, 12:08 pm
#751
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Looks like domestic F pitch to me (38"), which is about what we should expect.
Obviously much better than 10 across Y with 31-34" pitch. The most important things are (1) you won't be shoulder to shoulder with your neighbor forced to share a tiny little armrest, and (2) you'll have leg support and somewhere to rest your feet. While it's not lie-flat, it's going to be much less miserable than long-haul Y.
Obviously much better than 10 across Y with 31-34" pitch. The most important things are (1) you won't be shoulder to shoulder with your neighbor forced to share a tiny little armrest, and (2) you'll have leg support and somewhere to rest your feet. While it's not lie-flat, it's going to be much less miserable than long-haul Y.
Jun 26, 2018, 12:17 pm
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Has anyone heard if UA’s PE will have a dedicated flight attendant(s) like Delta? It is my understanding that AA doesn’t. Also, I’ve seen where Delta uses china and glassware for meal service in PE while AA uses china but plastic cups like regular Economy. Any word yet on United’s plan for meal service?
Jun 27, 2018, 7:02 pm
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A fairly positive review of the seat on TPG. They managed to get a pax on the inaugural flight.
United's New Premium Plus Seat on the 772-200
United's New Premium Plus Seat on the 772-200
Jun 27, 2018, 7:35 pm
#754
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Has anyone heard if UA’s PE will have a dedicated flight attendant(s) like Delta? It is my understanding that AA doesn’t. Also, I’ve seen where Delta uses china and glassware for meal service in PE while AA uses china but plastic cups like regular Economy. Any word yet on United’s plan for meal service?
Jun 27, 2018, 8:16 pm
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Simple curiosity? Perhaps as to whether and how UA might differentiate their PE product? I.e. all of the seats are the same, so will UA go for some soft service advantage like dedicated FAs, will UA mimic DL's plated service or "go for great" with AA's plastic cups?
Granted with the wines served by AA, the stemware makes very little difference, but it would be nicer to have than a plastic cup. If anything, the plastic cups seem cheap and almost an oversight on the part of inflight services...
Granted with the wines served by AA, the stemware makes very little difference, but it would be nicer to have than a plastic cup. If anything, the plastic cups seem cheap and almost an oversight on the part of inflight services...
Jun 27, 2018, 8:30 pm
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A fairly positive review of the seat on TPG. They managed to get a pax on the inaugural flight.
United's New Premium Plus Seat on the 772-200
United's New Premium Plus Seat on the 772-200
Jun 27, 2018, 8:54 pm
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A fairly positive review of the seat on TPG. They managed to get a pax on the inaugural flight.
United's New Premium Plus Seat on the 772-200
United's New Premium Plus Seat on the 772-200
Originally Posted by TPG.com
The Premium Plus cabin on the United 777-200 consisted of three rows laid out in a 2-4-2 configuration for a total of 24 seats. Additionally, this 777 had 50 Polaris seats and 202 in economy — a drop from the 242 coach seats in the two-cabin configuration.
Jun 28, 2018, 12:12 am
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Otherwise I thought the review was unusually well done.
Jun 28, 2018, 1:00 am
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UA's 77W has 306 Y seats, not 242. The 242 is the seat count for the reconfigured Polaris 772. In other words, the article is saying that they put 24 P+ seats in place of the 40 Y seats that they would have installed if they had done the two-cabin J/Y configuration instead of the three-cabin J/P+/Y configuration.
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Jun 28, 2018, 6:30 am
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United new Premium Plus - help please
Need expert advice! Looking to possibly try this EWR-BCN (Barcelona) on assigned 777-200 in May 2019. Need to buy tickets by end of Aug 2018 (for credit card sign up bonus).
Question: The seat maps right now don’t have Premium Plus as an option. What happens if I buy the ticket now and select a row that is supposed to eventually be Polaris or Premium Plus?
Question: The seat maps right now don’t have Premium Plus as an option. What happens if I buy the ticket now and select a row that is supposed to eventually be Polaris or Premium Plus?
Jun 28, 2018, 6:34 am
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Need expert advice! Looking to possibly try this EWR-BCN (Barcelona) on assigned 777-200 in May 2019. Need to buy tickets by end of Aug 2018 (for credit card sign up bonus).
Question: The seat maps right now don’t have Premium Plus as an option. What happens if I buy the ticket now and select a row that is supposed to eventually be Polaris or Premium Plus?
Question: The seat maps right now don’t have Premium Plus as an option. What happens if I buy the ticket now and select a row that is supposed to eventually be Polaris or Premium Plus?
Second most likely outcome: You'll get the Premium Plus seat free of charge until United has a clear policy in place. Remember seat assignments are NOT guaranteed and United could just push you out of those seat assignments without recourse.
You won't get Polaris free of charge (I don't even think it's even possible for you to select an "Economy" seat in a row that's supposed to be "Polaris"). We all wish though!
Jun 28, 2018, 6:38 am
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I think, by May 2019, UA will be selling Premium Plus as a distinct class of service, so if you select a row which becomes PP, but are booked in Economy or an E+ seat, you'll be reassigned to a seat that's actually in your ticketed class of service. Same goes for Polaris, and in cases of aircraft swaps, an algorithm is employed to reallocate seats based on original assignment... though it doesn't always generate favorable results.
EWR-BCN operated as a high-density 777 this summer, and shows the same 77H for next year, but I'm not certain that's actually going to be the case. Aircraft swaps and schedule changes this far out are likely.
EWR-BCN operated as a high-density 777 this summer, and shows the same 77H for next year, but I'm not certain that's actually going to be the case. Aircraft swaps and schedule changes this far out are likely.
Jun 28, 2018, 11:15 am
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But the price differential is not really significant, not like it would be when they charge for PE and they are still not charging passengers who can have access to the Economy+ seats. And if I had to pay, I would be more likely to pay for seats in row 20 than row 41. I don't like being close to the toilets where there's a lot of traffic. Row 20 has little traffic since everybody has to go towards the back to the toilets.
Another data point:
UA803 / 30Jun / IAD-NRT
20F $239
30F $189
41F $189
For a long-haul flight like that, a $50 premium would be well worth it to me.
Jun 28, 2018, 11:28 am
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Agreed. If I were a non-status passenger choosing to buy Y+ seating on a long-haul UA flight with Premium Economy, I think I would splurge for the PE seats.
Another data point:
UA803 / 30Jun / IAD-NRT
20F $239
30F $189
41F $189
For a long-haul flight like that, a $50 premium would be well worth it to me.
Another data point:
UA803 / 30Jun / IAD-NRT
20F $239
30F $189
41F $189
For a long-haul flight like that, a $50 premium would be well worth it to me.
During the two years that I had to fly PE on BA, they had a really nice seat: the bulkhead seat that was alone. I managed to get it on all my flights.
Jun 28, 2018, 12:20 pm
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I got the sense that the author was intending to state the current capacity of the plane, and was writing in the past tense because he was describing his experience. The paragraph starts with "The Premium Plus cabin on the United 777-200 consisted of three rows…," and that clearly isn't meant to imply that it no longer consists of them. Basically, I think "had" here meant "when I [the author] was on it," not "had at some point in the past." Or, if you will, the simple past tense, rather than past perfect tense ("had had").
UA's 77W has 306 Y seats, not 242. The 242 is the seat count for the reconfigured Polaris 772. In other words, the article is saying that they put 24 P+ seats in place of the 40 Y seats that they would have installed if they had done the two-cabin J/Y configuration instead of the three-cabin J/P+/Y configuration.
UA's 77W has 306 Y seats, not 242. The 242 is the seat count for the reconfigured Polaris 772. In other words, the article is saying that they put 24 P+ seats in place of the 40 Y seats that they would have installed if they had done the two-cabin J/Y configuration instead of the three-cabin J/P+/Y configuration.
Not touching the linguistics ......
