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Old Jan 4, 2015, 2:01 pm
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This wiki was created to distill SDC (and related standby) down to a set of rules in the hopes of benefiting others.

The official "rules" can be found here. In practice, some of the rules almost always apply, and some are more flexible.

Note there have been reports of SDC to one segment removing confirmed CPU upgrades on downline segments. If maintaining the confirmed upgrade is important then these changes should be handled with care.

Most Frequently Asked Question: When do I call/go online to make the change?
Follow this flowchart:
Question 1: Are you within 24 hours of your currently scheduled UA(*) operated flight that you're trying to change off of? If yes, continue to Question 2. If no, continue to answer 1.
Question 2: Are you within 24 hours of the first UA operated flight you're trying to change on to? If yes, continue to to Answer 2. If no, continue to Answer 1.
Answer 1: No, you cannot call/go online yet to make an SDC.
Answer 2: Yes, then you can call/go online to make an SDC.

General Baseline Rules

These are the general rules that usually apply to SDC's; falling outside these rules usually requires payment of a full change fee and the fare difference:
  • The departure time of the first segment of the old itinerary and the departure time of the first segment of the new itinerary must both be within 24 hours of the moment that the change is made.
  • Only applies to UA/UX operated flights, domestic or international. Changing from a non-UA operated to UA operated may be possible.
  • The ultimate origin and destination airports must remain the same.
  • Routing can be changed (addition, deletion, or change of connection points) but the routing rules of the original fare usually apply.
  • All remaining unflown segments in single fared itinerary are considered together (i.e., if you're flying WWW-XXX-YYY-ZZZ, you can go to a kiosk at XXX and potentially fly XXX-AAA-ZZZ or XXX-ZZZ direct).
  • SDC can be done an unlimited number of times, and can therefore be used to extend a trip indefinitely (pending availability).
  • SDC costs $75 for Members and Silvers - the fee is waived for Golds and up (plus any applicable fare difference, see below). *G's may also get free SDC, although there is no mention of this in the official rules. Once in-route, fees for an earlier connecting flight may be waived per GG SDC Line 118.
  • Non-elites on the same PNR benefit from any waived fees for SDC.
  • No fare difference is charged so long as there is availability on all of the new segments in the originally ticketed fare class. Fare class availability in all classes often opens up after T-24 and almost always opens up at T-3 unless the plane is very full.
  • SDC on bulk tickets, including United Specials, is not permitted.
  • SDC is permitted on both domestic and international itineraries.

How to SDC

SDC can be accomplished in a few different places (in rough order of likelihood of being able to get the rules bent):
  • United mobile app
  • Kiosk
  • Phone
  • On united.com, right now only the "Search Other Flight Options" button during On-Line Check-In (OLCI) works. This has spotty availability, particularly if the change would involve paying an additional fare due to fare bucket non-availability.
  • Counter/Gate (although reports are that most airport agents are not familiar with the SDC policy and may not allow you to SDC to a valid itinerary--you can try to direct them to look up GG SDC, but they often won't understand that what you're trying to do is permitted by those rules)
Please note that the United.com “change flight” link before checking in within T-24, is broken. The website may not show all available options and will often attempt to collect the change fee rather than the SDC fee (if any).


NB: An SDC where the original itinerary (in one direction) has three or more segments cannot be done online.


Nuances and Loose Rules

Now for the hard part: figuring out where the flexibility is in the rules. This list is compiled from the responses to people saying "Can I do X?" where X is something that is not clearly permitted by the rules. One's likelihood of success here depends a bit on the method used for the SDC.

For each item, the following codes apply:
Y = officially permitted and possible using any method
A = not permitted but perhaps possible using an agent (phone/counter), perhaps having to HUACA
A* = mixed reports of success with an agent (phone/counter),
N* = possible only if you find a very accommodating agent
N = little or no reported success.
  • Violating various non-routing fare rules (day/time, minimum stay, etc.): Y
  • Change destination to ultra-close airport (see the old S*FAR/STANDBY): A
  • Change destination to a co-terminal: N*
  • Change destination to an entirely different place: N
  • Change itinerary at the beginning to include illegal layovers (> 4 hours): N*
  • Change itinerary at the layover point (using kiosk, app, or agent) to create an otherwise illegal layover: Y
  • Change itinerary at the beginning to add a layover point not permitted by the routing rules: N*
  • Change itinerary at a layover point to add another layover not permitted (either in terms of number of segments or routing rules) by the routing rules: Y
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours before or after the original flight: N*
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours before the original flight, if the previous day's flight has been delayed: Y (based on one report)
  • Combining separately-fared segments to do SDC (e.g. XXX-YYY+YYY-ZZZ -> XXX-ZZZ): A
  • Change UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment to UA metal: A
  • Change from UA metal to UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment: N (see post 1813 for one exception)
  • Change from UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment to a different UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment: ??
  • Change on a non-UA ticketed segment: N* (with potential dire consequences)
  • Change from an upgraded flight into Y on the new flight: Y
  • Change from a GPU-upgraded flight into J/F on the new flight: A
  • Change from a CPU-upgraded flight and get confirmed into available R space on the new flight: N*
  • Change from an instrument-upgraded flight and get confirmed into available R space on the new flight: A*
  • Non-elite on different PNR benefiting from Elite's waived-fee SDC: A
  • Change at origin airport after tendering a checked bag: N
  • Change at layover airport when a bag has been checked: N

If you encounter issues with an agent (phone or counter/gate), you can ask the agent to reference GG SDC. Additionally, GG SDC line 61 specifically references that fare classes are supposed to level out 3.5 hours before departure, so you might be able to use that to your advantage if fare classes have not leveled out and you're trying to ask an agent to open up the correct inventory or force you onto the flight.

Note -- as of 11/27/2017: A datapoint indicates that UA may have updated its GG rule regarding leveling out to state the following:

Code:
EVERYDAY AWARD AND REVENUE BUCKETS ARE TO LEVEL OUT WITHIN 2H OF DEPARTURE
Standby
You may stand by if seats are not available in the purchased fare class. In these cases, the same-day change fee will apply, but will not be charged unless you are assigned a seat on your alternate flight. Changes in routing are not allowed when standing by. Standby may be requested on the day of departure at an airport kiosk or with a United representative at the airport. Once you are added to the flight standby list, you can check your real-time standby status at united.com/flightstatus or on your mobile device at mobile.united.com/info.

Instead of paying a same-day change discounted fee, can I stand by for my desired flight for free?
No. The only time you may standby for free is when the fare does not have any penalties for making changes, or when standing by involuntarily due to a flight irregularity.

Can I pay the same-day change discount fee with cash?
Cash will only be accepted by a United airport representative when the change is available to be confirmed, not for standby travel.

original posting by mgcsinc, initiated by jackal

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Old May 20, 2018, 9:47 pm
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So if I am understanding correctly, you can make a same-day change as a 1K on an all-UA international itinerary? I thought this was only a domestic policy!
I have an international UA-only reservation. If I (as a 1K) look at same-day changes, in addition to the fare difference, a change-fee is shown as well. So yes, I don't think it will work for international itineraries.

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Old May 20, 2018, 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by htb
I have an international UA-only reservation. If I (as a 1K) look at same-day changes, in addition to the fare difference, a change-fee is shown as well. So yes, I don't think it will work for international itineraries. ...
Absolutely SDC will work for an international all UA operated itin. If all the other conditions are met.
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Old May 20, 2018, 9:59 pm
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Originally Posted by htb
I have an international UA-only reservation. If I (as a 1K) look at same-day changes, in addition to the fare difference, a change-fee is shown as well. So yes, I don't think it will work for international itineraries.

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it works on international itineraries.
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Old May 20, 2018, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by htb
I have an international UA-only reservation. If I (as a 1K) look at same-day changes, in addition to the fare difference, a change-fee is shown as well. So yes, I don't think it will work for international itineraries.

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You can make SDC changes on intl UA-operated flights.

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Old May 21, 2018, 12:37 am
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Originally Posted by htb
I have an international UA-only reservation. If I (as a 1K) look at same-day changes, in addition to the fare difference, a change-fee is shown as well.
If you're being quoted a change fee, it's either an agent/website error or the change you are trying to make does not fit within the SDC rules (likely one of the flights is more than 24 hours away).
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Old May 21, 2018, 5:43 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
If you're being quoted a change fee, it's either an agent/website error or the change you are trying to make does not fit within the SDC rules (likely one of the flights is more than 24 hours away).
This is today's itinerary:

Flight UA 1992 Depart: 15:01 Mon., May. 21, 2018 New York/Newark, NJ, US (EWR - Liberty) Arrive: 16:23 Mon., May. 21, 2018 Washington, DC, US (IAD - Dulles)
Flight UA 950 Depart: 17:35 Mon., May. 21, 2018 Washington, DC, US (IAD - Dulles) Arrive: 07:15 Tue., May. 22, 2018 Brussels, BE (BRU)
I'm still quoted a $153 change fee for any flight I could change into, e.g.

from $505 USD
Change Fee $153 USD
Depart: 18:25Mon., May. 21, 2018 New York/Newark, NJ, US (EWR - Liberty)
Arrive: 07:45 +1 DayTue., May. 22, 2018 Brussels, BE (BRU)
Flight: UA999
Any tricks? I'm simply using "Change flights" on the website.

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Old May 21, 2018, 5:52 am
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Originally Posted by htb
This is today's itinerary:



I'm still quoted a $153 change fee for any flight I could change into, e.g.



Any tricks? I'm simply using "Change flights" on the website.

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If your fare class is available, then it should be free. Just call it in. The website doesn’t always give you the most accurate information.
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Old May 21, 2018, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by htb
This is today's itinerary:



I'm still quoted a $153 change fee for any flight I could change into, e.g.



Any tricks? I'm simply using "Change flights" on the website.

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dont use the regular change flights tool.

Use the SDC tool once (or after) you check in - either online or on the app - there will be an ad-like Box that says change your flight or something like that (unless there are no options within 24 hours in your fare class - then it just won’t show that option). From there, it should show options available - note that it can be finicky - may not show everything available, and online vs. app vs. kiosk may show different options. Also, as time goes by, options may change due to availability changing and becoming eligible for different options that are now within 24 hours vs. 10 minutes ago.

Also, can SDC by calling.
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Originally Posted by htb
Any tricks? I'm simply using "Change flights" on the website.
Well there's your problem Known to be buggy.

As others have said, use the App or call it in. The App works really really for SDC.

Is that ticket bought in Europe? I assume $153 is a currency converted change fee. On a US fare it would be $300 or $450.
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Old May 21, 2018, 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
That's not quite correct. This is the return of a RT, so assuming fare class availability, OP should be able to pay a change fee and change NRT-LAS to a new (legal) routing so long as the new NRT departure is within 24 hours of the current one. Without having to wait until KUL-NRT has been flown. Going over 24 hours at NRT would create a stopover which would cost an additional $100 on this fare.
One last question on this - I think the answer is no, but just checking. When SDCing, could I change the departure from NRT to HND? There’s a flight on UA metal HND-SFO leaving at 15:45 which would probably be within 24 hours of the time I’m in the lounge.

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Old May 21, 2018, 2:04 pm
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When SDCing, could I change the departure from NRT to HND? There’s a flight on UA metal HND-SFO leaving at 15:45 which would probably be within 24 hours of the time I’m in the lounge.
Unfortunately not. SDC is limited to same airport.
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Old May 21, 2018, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by htb
This is today's itinerary:
I'm still quoted a $153 change fee for any flight I could change into, e.g.
............
Any tricks? I'm simply using "Change flights" on the website. ...
Are there any other flights on the itin that are not today?

As others have mentioned, use the SDC tool as a part of checkin. Change Flights can do undesireable things if there are other flights.
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Old May 21, 2018, 4:23 pm
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Unfortunately not. SDC is limited to same airport.
BOO and thanks for the quick response!
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Old May 22, 2018, 6:11 am
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Same day to transcon

I'm flying in F sfo-ord-tpa. I'm now PS and wondering if I'll get a same day change offer to SFO-EWR-TPA? Would love a cheap change to a premium transcon. Anyone have experience with this?
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Old May 22, 2018, 7:04 am
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I'm flying in F sfo-ord-tpa. I'm now PS and wondering if I'll get a same day change offer to SFO-EWR-TPA? Would love a cheap change to a premium transcon. Anyone have experience with this?
You could try, but these flights go out full, so be prepared to be offered a middle seat.
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