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This wiki was created to distill SDC (and related standby) down to a set of rules in the hopes of benefiting others.

The official "rules" can be found here. In practice, some of the rules almost always apply, and some are more flexible.

Present Eligiblity policy 2023

Same day changes


Premier members may be able to get another flight for free. If your original cabin isn’t available, you may have to pay a price difference.

All other travelers may be able to get another flight within 24 hours of the original flight. You may have to pay a price difference even if the same cabin is available.
Note there have been reports of SDC to one segment removing confirmed CPU upgrades on downline segments. If maintaining the confirmed upgrade is important then these changes should be handled with care.

Most Frequently Asked Question: When do I call/go online to make the change?
Follow this flowchart:
Question 1: Are you within 24 hours of your currently scheduled UA(*) operated flight that you're trying to change off of? If yes, continue to Question 2. If no, continue to answer 1.
Question 2: Are you within 24 hours of the first UA operated flight you're trying to change on to? If yes, continue to Answer 2. If no, continue to Answer 1.
Answer 1: No, you cannot call/go online yet to make an SDC.
Answer 2: Yes, then you can call/go online to make an SDC.

General Baseline Rules

These are the general rules that usually apply to SDC's; falling outside these rules usually requires payment of a full change fee and the fare difference:
  • Not available for Basic Economy (N class) tickets
  • The departure time of the first segment of the old itinerary and the departure time of the first segment of the new itinerary must both be within 24 hours of the moment that the change is made.
  • Only applies to UA/UX operated flights, domestic or international. Changing from a non-UA operated to UA operated may be possible.
  • Must be issued on UA ticket stock (ticket number begins with 016)
  • Award tickets are eligible, but an award change may be a better option (not restricted to 24 hours)
  • The ultimate origin and destination airports must remain the same.
  • Routing can be changed (addition, deletion, or change of connection points) but the routing rules of the original fare usually apply.
  • All remaining unflown segments in a single fared itinerary are considered together (i.e., if you're flying WWW-XXX-YYY-ZZZ, you can go to a kiosk at XXX and potentially fly XXX-AAA-ZZZ or XXX-ZZZ direct).
  • SDC can be done an unlimited number of times, and can, therefore, be used to extend a trip indefinitely (pending availability).
  • SDC costs $75 for non-Premiers Only premier members as of 1 Jan 2021
  • No fee for Premier (plus any applicable fare difference, see below). *G's may also get free SDC, although there is no mention of this in the official rules. Once in-route, fees for an earlier connecting flight may be waived per GG SDC Line 118.
  • Non-elites on the same PNR benefit from any waived fees for SDC.
  • No fare difference is charged so long as there is availability on all of the new segments in the originally ticketed fare class. Fare class availability in all classes often opens up after T-24 and almost always opens up at T-3 unless the plane is very full. The practice of fare leveling all fares for all flights at a specific time appears to no longer be in effect.
  • SDC on bulk tickets, including United Specials, is not permitted.
  • SDC is permitted on both domestic and international itineraries.

How to SDC

SDC can be accomplished in a few different places (in rough order of likelihood of being able to get the rules bent):
  • United mobile app
  • Kiosk
  • Phone
  • On united.com, right now only the "Search Other Flight Options" button during On-Line Check-In (OLCI) works. This has spotty availability, particularly if the change would involve paying an additional fare due to fare bucket non-availability.
  • Counter/Gate (although reports are that most airport agents are not familiar with the SDC policy and may not allow you to SDC to a valid itinerary--you can try to direct them to look up GG SDC, but they often won't understand that what you're trying to do is permitted by those rules)

Please note that the United.com “change flight” link before checking in within T-24 is broken. The website may not show all available options and will often attempt to collect the change fee rather than the SDC fee (if any).

NB: An SDC where the original itinerary (in one direction) has three or more segments cannot be done online.

Nuances and Loose Rules

Now for the hard part: figuring out where the flexibility is in the rules. This list is compiled from the responses to people saying, "Can I do X?" where X is something that is not clearly permitted by the rules. One's likelihood of success here depends a bit on the method used for the SDC.

For each item, the following codes apply:
Y = officially permitted and possible using any method
A = not permitted but perhaps possible using an agent (phone/counter), perhaps having to HUACA
A* = mixed reports of success with an agent (phone/counter),
N* = possible only if you find a very accommodating agent
N = little or no reported success.
  • Violating various non-routing fare rules (day/time, minimum stay, etc.): Y
  • Change destination to ultra-close airport (see the old S*FAR/STANDBY): A
  • Change destination to a co-terminal: N*
  • Change destination to an entirely different place: N
  • Change itinerary at the beginning to include illegal layovers (> 4 hours): N*
  • Change itinerary at the layover point (using kiosk, app, or agent) to create an otherwise illegal layover: Y
  • Change itinerary at the beginning to add a layover point not permitted by the routing rules: N*
  • Change itinerary at a layover point to add another layover not permitted (either in terms of number of segments or routing rules) by the routing rules: Y
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours before or after the original flight: N*
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours before the original flight, if the previous day's flight has been delayed: Y (based on one report)
  • Change to a flight exactly 24 hours after the original flight, if the original flight has been delayed: Y (at least in the app)
  • Combining separately-fared segments to do SDC (e.g. XXX-YYY+YYY-ZZZ -> XXX-ZZZ): A
  • Change UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment to UA metal: A*
  • Change from UA metal to UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment: N (see post 1813 for one exception)
  • Change from UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment to a different UA-codeshare, non-UA-metal segment: ??
  • Change on a non-UA ticketed segment: N* (with potentially dire consequences)
  • Change from an upgraded flight into Y on the new flight: Y
  • Change from a PointsPlus-upgraded flight into J/F on the new flight: A
  • Change from a CPU-upgraded flight and get confirmed into available PZ space on the new flight: N*
  • Change from an instrument-upgraded flight and get confirmed into available PZ space on the new flight: A*
  • Non-elite on different PNR benefiting from Elite's waived-fee SDC: A
  • Change at origin airport after tendering a checked bag: A - 60 minutes prior to both flights required
  • Change at layover airport when a bag has been checked: A - 60 minutes prior to both flights required
  • Change a bulk fare: A*
  • Stand-By to later flight, then SDC after original flight departs to flight within 24-hours of new Stand-By flight: Y

If you encounter issues with an agent (phone or counter/gate), you can ask the agent to reference GG SDC. Additionally, GG SDC line 61 specifically references that fare classes are supposed to level out 3.5 hours before departure, so you might be able to use that to your advantage if fare classes have not leveled out and you're trying to ask an agent to open up the correct inventory or force you onto the flight.

Note -- as of 11/27/2017: A datapoint indicates that UA may have updated its GG rule regarding leveling out to state the following:

Code:
EVERYDAY AWARD AND REVENUE BUCKETS ARE TO LEVEL OUT WITHIN 2H OF DEPARTURE

The practice of fare leveling all fares for all flights at a specific time appears no longer in effective -- it does happen in some case but appears to be more variable

Standby
For all fare classes other than Basic Economy (N class) you may standby if seats are not available in the purchased fare class. There is no longer a fee for Standby. In these cases, the same-day change fee will apply, but will not be charged unless you are assigned a seat on your alternate flight. Changes in routing are not allowed when standing by. Standby may be requested up to 24 hours of original departure on the day of departure at an airport kiosk or with a United representative at the airport or UA app. Once you are added to the flight standby list, you can check your real-time standby status at united.com/flightstatus or on your mobile device at mobile.united.com/info.

Instead of paying a same-day change discounted fee, can I stand by for my desired flight for free?
Yes No. The only time you may standby for free is when the fare does not have any penalties for making changes, or when standing by involuntarily due to a flight irregularity.

Can I pay the same-day change discount fee with cash?
Cash will only be accepted by a United airport representative when the change is available to be confirmed, not for standby travel.

Standby Nuances and Loose Rules

All nuances assume request is made within 24 hours of scheduled departure to a flight within 24 hours of the request.

For each item, the following codes apply:
Y = officially permitted and possible using any method
K = Perhaps not officially permitted, but kiosk will allow.
A = not permitted but perhaps possible using an agent (phone/counter), perhaps having to HUACA
A* = mixed reports of success with an agent (phone/counter),
N* = possible only if you find a very accommodating agent
N = little or no reported success.
  • To a flight the previous calendar day: A*/N*/K (app allows this)
  • To a flight after your ticketed flight, on the same calendar day: Y
  • To a flight the following calendar day: N*
  • Request Standby at an airport other than departure airport: Can now request Standby via app 24 hours in advance
  • Make request calendar day before scheduled flight to flight same day as scheduled departure: K

Mileage Credit after SDC
SDC is considered a voluntary change, so your credited PQM & PQS will be credited based on the route you actually fly. Your PQDs should not change and therefore for your RDMs will not change. Occasionally if you fly a fewer number of segments, your PQD will credit wrong, but a call to MPSC should correct that.

Previous threads:
UA Same-Day Travel Change (SDC) Fees/Questions (with Wiki) {Archive}
UA Same-Day Travel Change (SDC) Fees/Questions *now with WikiPost* {pre-2015 Archive}

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Old Aug 17, 2023, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by bj27
Supremely helpful response, jsloan, thank you a million. Your alternative is viable, however, on Friday, DEN-EWR-SAV is the same number of miles at the non-stop.

I think a big technical point where I'm getting confused is whether the 24 hour window applies to 1) the departure time of the first flight, or 2) when the request is made (wiki says #2 but I think I've seen references to #1, i.e., request time doesn't matter).

All else equal, It might make sense to book a later DEN-XXX-SAV flight on Thursday then, to give more time instead of risk being marked as a no-show.
It’s both. You’ll be able to same day change within 24 hours of your first flight. Once you hit this time, your first flight departure time is no longer important.

The options you’re shown are dependent on time of request, since they need to be within 24 hours of your request. So if you are looking for an option later than your originally scheduled flight, you won’t be able to see it until your time of request is within 24 hours of the new flight’s departure.
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Old Aug 17, 2023, 10:53 pm
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SDC on a JN award ticket

Right now AAA-BBB-CCC all on UA is about 1/3 the miles as AAA-CCC also on UA. Both tickets book into JN (gotta love the idiocy of no award charts, but I digress). If I book the cheaper ticket and tried to SDC onto the direct flight do I essentially have nearly last seat availability with JN space? This seems too good to be true so I must be missing something.

Apologies as a "JN" search didn't return any results.
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Old Aug 17, 2023, 10:57 pm
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If I book the cheaper ticket and tried to SDC onto the direct flight do I essentially have nearly last seat availability with JN space?
Provided you have Premier status, and thus fare differences are waived, I can see no reason this wouldn't work. I haven't done with with JN, but I've done it with YN and (variable-priced) XN.
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 1:03 am
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Originally Posted by econ
I’ve done this with JN before (and saved a lot more than 10k miles).
Originally Posted by adambadam
SDC on a JN award ticket

Right now AAA-BBB-CCC all on UA is about 1/3 the miles as AAA-CCC also on UA. Both tickets book into JN (gotta love the idiocy of no award charts, but I digress). If I book the cheaper ticket and tried to SDC onto the direct flight do I essentially have nearly last seat availability with JN space? This seems too good to be true so I must be missing something.

Apologies as a "JN" search didn't return any results.
Yes, have done it before. Sometimes the non-stop is fewer miles, but SDC to the connection can pick up another PQF.
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 8:35 am
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It’s both. You’ll be able to same day change within 24 hours of your first flight. Once you hit this time, your first flight departure time is no longer important.

The options you’re shown are dependent on time of request, since they need to be within 24 hours of your request. So if you are looking for an option later than your originally scheduled flight, you won’t be able to see it until your time of request is within 24 hours of the new flight’s departure.
Amazing. Thank you unitedwildcat. You all are certainly a wealth of information and first-hand experience and I'm very thankful for the thorough response!
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 6:37 pm
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I have an ANA plated (205xxx) ticket ex-Asia to U.S., with some United legs in the middle. I used SDC on the United segments. I panicked just now when I saw that united.com now shows a 106xxx ticket number for this itinerary. It didn't originally. It would be very bad for me if I were to earn PQP for my future ANA segments based on the 11 x fare formula (for 106xxx tickets) rather than based on miles (for 205xxx tickets). I'd lose roughly 1300 PQP.

Should I be worried? Amex and ANA still show 205xxx ticket numbers.

Is there anything I can do at this point?
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 6:41 pm
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Is there anything I can do at this point?
If you haven’t flown yet, you might be able to get ANA to reticket your itinerary. By using SDC, you’ve essentially given UA permission to take control of the ticket. It used to be the case that SDC wouldn’t work if you have partner segments remaining on a ticket. However, if you’ve got a ticket where UA had to reissue it, rather than revalidating the non-UA ticket, and it had non-UA flights remaining — they have to reissue the whole itinerary.
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 6:47 pm
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If you haven’t flown yet, you might be able to get ANA to reticket your itinerary. By using SDC, you’ve essentially given UA permission to take control of the ticket. It used to be the case that SDC wouldn’t work if you have partner segments remaining on a ticket. However, if you’ve got a ticket where UA had to reissue it, rather than revalidating the non-UA ticket, and it had non-UA flights remaining — they have to reissue the whole itinerary.
Ouch.

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Old Aug 18, 2023, 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
If you haven’t flown yet, you might be able to get ANA to reticket your itinerary. By using SDC, you’ve essentially given UA permission to take control of the ticket. It used to be the case that SDC wouldn’t work if you have partner segments remaining on a ticket. However, if you’ve got a ticket where UA had to reissue it, rather than revalidating the non-UA ticket, and it had non-UA flights remaining — they have to reissue the whole itinerary.
I actually booked through Amex travel, so could ANA even reissue it?

I could request that united give me original routing credit. I've done that before. However, that was an involuntary change and this change was voluntary (my original flight was delayed, but not cancelled).

edit: I called ANA and UA. They both confirmed that my future NH segments are still on an NH ticket. Only the United segments are now on a United ticket. Good to know.

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Originally Posted by BigE (Post # 1566)
I have an ANA plated (205xxx) ticket ex-Asia to U.S., with some United legs in the middle. I used SDC on the United segments. I panicked just now when I saw that united.com now shows a 106xxx ticket number for this itinerary. It didn't originally. It would be very bad for me if I were to earn PQP for my future ANA segments based on the 11 x fare formula (for 106xxx tickets) rather than based on miles (for 205xxx tickets). I'd lose roughly 1300 PQP. [Emphasis added.]
For future reference, UA tickets begin with 016.
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Old Aug 18, 2023, 11:35 pm
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I actually booked through Amex travel, so could ANA even reissue it?
Yes, although Amex would probably have been your first resort in that case.

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edit: I called ANA and UA. They both confirmed that my future NH segments are still on an NH ticket. Only the United segments are now on a United ticket. Good to know.
I’ve… never heard of that. Certainly not for SDC. Unless your ticket happened to include fare breaks such that the UA flights were on a standalone fare component that could be cleaved from the original ticket, I don’t even know how UA would get that to validate.

I don’t have a current ANA ticket to try it with, but try the saudia.com ticket lookup. It doesn’t work with 016 tickets anymore, but I think it’ll work with 205 tickets. Put your ticket in and see what it tells you. If the UA flights show up, I’m curious as to what their coupon status is, but far more important is the coupon status of the ANA flights, which should be either Open or Airport Control — and definitely not Exch./Reissued.

If the NH coupons show up OK in the Saudia tool, then don’t worry about it, and we all learned something new about UA’s SDC capabilities. If they don’t, then you might have an issue.
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Hoping that I am posting this SDC question in the appropriate space -
I have 4 "016" tickets booked for me and my family through United - all on one record locator. The itinerary is SMF-DEN-FRA-NBO with SMF-DEN - 1st class, DEN-FRA - Polaris business class and the final leg FRA-NBO business class on Lufthansa. I do NOT have status on United. I want to SDC the first leg SMF-DEN to an earlier flight and currently I can see that they still have 4 first class seats in the same fare class (Z) available on the earlier flight. My questions are:

1) because this itinerary has 3 legs does this mean I will have to call in to United to request this SDC?
2) My understanding is that if I can make the change and the fare class is the same I would only have to pay $75/ticket to change just that first flight and still stay in First Class? If those Z fare tickets are no longer available at time of request could I still SDC to Economy with the same $75/ticket charge?
3) With either option for question 2, would the remainder of our itinerary remain intact? Or would I have to worry that the downstream legs are at risk for losing those business class seats?

I really want to change to an earlier flight as our current flight has a terrible delay history with high chance of missing our connection in DEN.
Would appreciate any insight. Thanks.
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Old Aug 19, 2023, 9:17 pm
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Hoping that I am posting this SDC question in the appropriate space -
I have 4 "016" tickets booked for me and my family through United - all on one record locator. The itinerary is SMF-DEN-FRA-NBO with SMF-DEN - 1st class, DEN-FRA - Polaris business class and the final leg FRA-NBO business class on Lufthansa.....
Unfortunately the LH flight makes this itin ineligble for SDC.

Originally Posted by jpucd
I do NOT have status on United. ....
2) My understanding is that if I can make the change and the fare class is the same I would only have to pay $75/ticket to change just that first flight and still stay in First Class? ....
While this has been true in the past, SDC rules for non-elities have changed

All other travelers may be able to get another flight within 24 hours of the original flight. You may have to pay a price difference even if the same cabin is available.
Essentially there is no longer SDC for non-elites
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Old Aug 19, 2023, 9:23 pm
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Hoping that I am posting this SDC question in the appropriate space -
I have 4 "016" tickets booked for me and my family through United - all on one record locator. The itinerary is SMF-DEN-FRA-NBO with SMF-DEN - 1st class, DEN-FRA - Polaris business class and the final leg FRA-NBO business class on Lufthansa. I do NOT have status on United. I want to SDC the first leg SMF-DEN to an earlier flight and currently I can see that they still have 4 first class seats in the same fare class (Z) available on the earlier flight. My questions are:

1) because this itinerary has 3 legs does this mean I will have to call in to United to request this SDC?
2) My understanding is that if I can make the change and the fare class is the same I would only have to pay $75/ticket to change just that first flight and still stay in First Class? If those Z fare tickets are no longer available at time of request could I still SDC to Economy with the same $75/ticket charge?
3) With either option for question 2, would the remainder of our itinerary remain intact? Or would I have to worry that the downstream legs are at risk for losing those business class seats?

I really want to change to an earlier flight as our current flight has a terrible delay history with high chance of missing our connection in DEN.
Would appreciate any insight. Thanks.
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So, you’re going to run into a plethora of issues here. For one thing, the fact that you have non-UA flights remaining on your itinerary may complicate things. Until recently, I would have said it was impossible due to that, but they seem to have relaxed that. However, it’s unclear which inventory you’d need to have Z class in — SMF-(DEN-FRA)-NBO, SMF-(DEN)-FRA, or SMF-DEN. Furthermore, the likelihood that there will be four Z seats available within the SDC window is essentially nil, as they will typically clear upgrades down to 2 or 3 seats at T-24.

UA has removed the $75 SDC fee, but they have reserved the right to charge the fare difference to non-premier members, meaning that you might have to pay whatever the walk-up fare for SMF-NBO is. And, no, you can’t SDC into Y without paying a (possibly even larger) fare difference.

But, yes, if you do manage to make this change, your downstream itinerary will be fine.

Here’s what I’d recommend:

(a) Give UA a call, explain that you’re worried about your connection, and ask if you can be moved onto the earlier flight as a courtesy.
(b) If that doesn’t work, wait to see if there’s any kind of schedule change that makes your connection a little tighter, and try then.
(c) If that still doesn’t work, keep an eye on things the day of the flight, and if you see any potential delays, call UA and ask to be re-accommodated.
(d) if all else fails, you can use same-day standby, not change, to try to get onto the earlier flight (almost certainly in Y, not F).

How long is your connection at DEN?

Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Unfortunately the LH flight makes this itin ineligble for SDC.
I thought the same thing, but there have been multiple successes this year with SDC of UA-operated segments prior to partner segments (admittedly, NH, not LH, if that turns out to matter).
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Old Aug 19, 2023, 9:27 pm
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so there wouldn't even be any point in trying to call United to try to see if I might find a sympathetic agent to make this change?
Or is my only other option to drag my family to the airport and try to fly standby for the earlier flight?
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