How to max out PQM + MPM for BOS-BNE
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How to max out PQM + MPM for BOS-BNE
Trying to plan and max out PQM (+ lifetime miles) + MPM on upcoming biz class flight from BOS-BNE, so far in my search, I've found a few routings via SFO, LAX to SYD or MEL and then Qantas domestic in Australia to BNE. I've also found PEK, TPE on Matrix but United website doesn't want to list it. AKL via NZ on United is listing at full fare, so out of range for me.
Any recommendations for routings and pointers on where to look greatly appreciated!
Thank you.
p.s. will be great if there're routings with 777-300ER segments in real polaris vs the other 2-2-2 or 2-4-2 lie-flats
Any recommendations for routings and pointers on where to look greatly appreciated!
Thank you.
p.s. will be great if there're routings with 777-300ER segments in real polaris vs the other 2-2-2 or 2-4-2 lie-flats
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Is this OPM and you don't care about $$$? Just looking for most miles on UA metal to BNE? What are your limits? You can try the flights via PVG/PEK and see if google flights prices them with a link back to United.
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I think BOS-LAX-MEL (10,533 miles each way) on UA and then QF/VA to BNE would be the ideal route for accumulating lifetime miles. BOS-SFO-SYD (10,122 miles o/w), then QF/VA to BNE would be the most comfortable given you'll have a fully-flat seat all the way to Australia.
I suppose you can also fly UA metal to SIN which would maximize lifetime mileage earnings and then make your way to BNE on EK/QF/SQ but that doesn't seem practical in my mind.
All scenarios above would involve the 787-9 on the TPAC segment.
I suppose you can also fly UA metal to SIN which would maximize lifetime mileage earnings and then make your way to BNE on EK/QF/SQ but that doesn't seem practical in my mind.
All scenarios above would involve the 787-9 on the TPAC segment.
Last edited by 764toHI; Jan 3, 2018 at 5:50 pm
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If you are plating with a UA fare, then here are your routing rules for full C. Other fares would be similar:
Generally speaking, ua.com won't offer non-UA fares. You can call and get them plated, but I don't see any likely candidates as airlines who allow more interesting routings tend not to allow off-plating (e.q. SQ).
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/VIA THE PACIFIC/ MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT 1. BOS-WAS/NYC/HOU/EWR/DEN/CHI-WAS/NYC/HOU/EWR/DEN/CHI-SFO/ LAX/LAS/HOU-SFO/LAX-UA-SYD-UA/QF-MEL-UA/QF/JQ-BNE 2. BOS-WAS/NYC/HOU/EWR/DEN/CHI-WAS/NYC/HOU/EWR/DEN/CHI-SFO/ LAX/LAS/HOU-SFO/LAX-UA-SYD-UA/QF/JQ-BNE 3. BOS-WAS/NYC/HOU/EWR/DEN/CHI-WAS/NYC/HOU/EWR/DEN/CHI-SFO/ LAX/LAS/HOU-SFO/LAX-UA-AKL-UA/NZ-BNE 4. BOS-WAS/NYC/HOU/EWR/DEN/CHI-WAS/NYC/HOU/EWR/DEN/CHI-SFO/ LAX/LAS/HOU-SFO/LAX-UA-AKL-QF-BNE
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@cfischer yes it's OPM (biz trip, had to look the term up, wasn't familiar.) most miles on UA metal. Limits? Did you mean on spend? Good idea on Google flights, although most show regular routing via SFO/LAX
@764toHI yes saw BOS-LAX-MEL as a good option, for max PQM/lifetime miles distance, annoying part 787 (i guess direct aisle access on polaris is a spoiler) and also the domestic first non lie-flat (esp if early flight).
@findark thanks for posting the routing rules, where do i go to look for that?
still new to all this but learning quickly, thanks for the pointers.
@764toHI yes saw BOS-LAX-MEL as a good option, for max PQM/lifetime miles distance, annoying part 787 (i guess direct aisle access on polaris is a spoiler) and also the domestic first non lie-flat (esp if early flight).
@findark thanks for posting the routing rules, where do i go to look for that?
still new to all this but learning quickly, thanks for the pointers.
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@findark thanks for posting the routing rules, where do i go to look for that?
BOS-IAH-SFO-AKL-SYD-BNE is slightly more *A miles, and BOS-IAH-SFO-SYD-MEL-BNE is probably the most total miles.
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@findark for BOS-IAH-SFO-SYD-MEL-BNE, the domestic Australian sectors are non *A which means you don't get UA PQM nor RDM right? At least that's my understanding when I spoke with CS.
If you want the most PQM, you should go via
Oops, I was reading too fast. It's SFO-AKL-BNE direct, not with a stop in SYD.
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It's not ideal for lifetime miles, but otherwise you could do BOS-EWR-NRT/HND-SYD, then on to BNE on a local carrier of your choice. I don't know if UA will ticket it with a connection to BNE after SYD or not. That gets you the Polaris 77W EWR-NRT and then NH to SYD which is neutral to UA in terms of PQM. (note, that would not be the case with economy on HND-SYD, but business class matches up regardless of destination). NH flys the 789 on that route which is all aisle access pods in C.
Depends on which you value more, maximizing PQMs and getting the Polaris seat trans-pac or maximizing Lifetime Miles and tolerating a UA 787 ultra-long haul. Doing the UA to NH route does involve changing airports in Tokyo but you have loads of time to do it and it's not difficult. There is a direct train or you could do a direct bus. The only other 200% PQM option all the way to Australia is AC.
Depends on which you value more, maximizing PQMs and getting the Polaris seat trans-pac or maximizing Lifetime Miles and tolerating a UA 787 ultra-long haul. Doing the UA to NH route does involve changing airports in Tokyo but you have loads of time to do it and it's not difficult. There is a direct train or you could do a direct bus. The only other 200% PQM option all the way to Australia is AC.
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I don't believe there is a free way to get them. The fare rules text also restricts you to 2 transfers each direction in Area 1 (Americas), so I think the maximal UA metal routing is BOS-IAH-LAX-MEL-BNE and v/v. The 789 is a perfectly acceptable aircraft IMO; if you care a lot about direct aisle access take a seat in the middle block.
BOS-IAH-SFO-AKL-SYD-BNE is slightly more *A miles, and BOS-IAH-SFO-SYD-MEL-BNE is probably the most total miles.
BOS-IAH-SFO-AKL-SYD-BNE is slightly more *A miles, and BOS-IAH-SFO-SYD-MEL-BNE is probably the most total miles.
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You're right of course, BOS-SFO-LAX is a superior routing. In reverse though BOS-IAH-SFO is longer than BOS-LAX-SFO and I think that's where I started before shifting to LAX-MEL because it overflies BNE by more miles.
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Personally I'd do the NRT/HND route but don't let Canadian immigration shy you off of that route. Their 777 and 787 seats are every bit as comfortable as UA's in my opinion.
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@dvs7310 wasn't able to price out BOS-EWR-NRT-HND-SYD on matrix, would you mind sharing where you get it priced?
Best way on Matrix is BOS-SYD
then open advanced codes and add UA UA NH
that will get it as well as many other UA hubs, but obviously you want EWR or SFO for the polaris product. (I'd.do EWR well over SFO because PS is nice but nowhere as nice as Polaris). I tried a random date and it prices as a Z fare, so assume no P available on that route.
Edit:
I played around with it a bit more, depending on the dates, you can force the SYD-BNE leg as well for the same price. Books into D on VA. To get that, enter BOS-BNE and in advanced codes insted of airlines, enter EWR TYO SYD then reverse on the return. Should come up to $9500 and change with or without the SYD-BNE tag.
Last edited by dvs7310; Jan 4, 2018 at 12:34 am