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Dec 9, 2018, 11:25 am
#1666
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And better QF than JQ 
Dec 9, 2018, 6:39 pm
#1667
Join Date: May 2006
Location: DFW
Programs: Marriott Plat, Southwest A-List Preferred
Posts: 265
Weird situation, trying to see if anyone has any ideas:
Had 264,XXX miles, was going to book an award trip for 320,000. Transferred over 56,000 miles from Chase to put me at 320,XXX(on the 7th). Purchase ticket (on the 8th). Look at account later in the day and see in my transaction history:
Had 264,XXX miles, was going to book an award trip for 320,000. Transferred over 56,000 miles from Chase to put me at 320,XXX(on the 7th). Purchase ticket (on the 8th). Look at account later in the day and see in my transaction history:
- 12/08/2018
Description
Mileage Purchase
Miles Earned
56,000 miles - Date
12/07/2018
Description
Chase Ultimate Rewards
Miles Earned
56,000 miles
Dec 9, 2018, 8:15 pm
#1668
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis
Posts: 52,139
Dec 10, 2018, 7:50 pm
#1669
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SAN
Programs: 1K (since 2008), *G (since 1990), 1MM
Posts: 3,218
You're pretty restricted on the UA fare:
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 VLXTOUMB V‡X 1076.00 ---- -/‡ -/ - PA01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-SAN TO-PER CXR-UA TVL-09DEC18 RULE-PW1R IPRP/3
FARE BASIS-VLXTOUMB SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SAP OW-ADVANCE PURCHASE
USD 1076.00 CONS E19AUG18 D-INFINITY FC-VLXTOUMB FN-
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 18AUG18/1110 EXPIRES INFINITY
**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING SAN-PER/UA EF-19AUG18 DIS-INDEF
**PUBLISHED SAN-SYD TPRG/3 PUBLISHED ROUTING 0551
**ADDON DST PER TPRG/3 PUBLISHED ROUTING 0551
/VIA THE PACIFIC/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. SAN-SFO/LAX/LAS/DEN-SFO/LAX-SYD-UA/QF/JQ-BNE-UA/QF/JQ-PER
2. SAN-SFO/LAX/LAS/DEN-SFO/LAX-SYD-UA/QF-MEL-UA/QF/JQ-PER
3. SAN-SFO/LAX/LAS/DEN-SFO/LAX-SYD-UA/QF/JQ-PER
4. SAN-SFO/LAX/LAS/DEN-SFO/LAX-AKL-UA/NZ-PER
...but...
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN NEW
ZEALAND AND AUSTRALIA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA.
TG and NZ do not permit off-plating of their fares. I tried to get creative with other *A airlines, but e.g. NH requires SAN-SFO-TYO-SYD-PER. I think you're stuck on this one unless someone can get them to fix the rules to allow AKL-PER.
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 VLXTOUMB V‡X 1076.00 ---- -/‡ -/ - PA01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-SAN TO-PER CXR-UA TVL-09DEC18 RULE-PW1R IPRP/3
FARE BASIS-VLXTOUMB SPECIAL FARE DIS-N VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-SAP OW-ADVANCE PURCHASE
USD 1076.00 CONS E19AUG18 D-INFINITY FC-VLXTOUMB FN-
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 18AUG18/1110 EXPIRES INFINITY
**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING SAN-PER/UA EF-19AUG18 DIS-INDEF
**PUBLISHED SAN-SYD TPRG/3 PUBLISHED ROUTING 0551
**ADDON DST PER TPRG/3 PUBLISHED ROUTING 0551
/VIA THE PACIFIC/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. SAN-SFO/LAX/LAS/DEN-SFO/LAX-SYD-UA/QF/JQ-BNE-UA/QF/JQ-PER
2. SAN-SFO/LAX/LAS/DEN-SFO/LAX-SYD-UA/QF-MEL-UA/QF/JQ-PER
3. SAN-SFO/LAX/LAS/DEN-SFO/LAX-SYD-UA/QF/JQ-PER
4. SAN-SFO/LAX/LAS/DEN-SFO/LAX-AKL-UA/NZ-PER
...but...
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN NEW
ZEALAND AND AUSTRALIA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA.
TG and NZ do not permit off-plating of their fares. I tried to get creative with other *A airlines, but e.g. NH requires SAN-SFO-TYO-SYD-PER. I think you're stuck on this one unless someone can get them to fix the rules to allow AKL-PER.
I can fly SQ or Scoot SIN-PER, and am allowing a day for misconnects. I know I can earn mileage with SQ, but is it possible with Scoot? SQ seems to be able to earn with Scoot but cannot find any mention of Scoot on the UA website. The price differential is $150 for a five hour flight so not a deal breaker if Scoot does not earn mileage with MP.
Dec 10, 2018, 7:56 pm
#1670
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Thank you @findark and @Kacee I ended up booking UA to SIN and GPU on the long haul SFO-SIN-SFO, with a waitlist for the SAN-SFO-SAN legs. :-)
I can fly SQ or Scoot SIN-PER, and am allowing a day for misconnects. I know I can earn mileage with SQ, but is it possible with Scoot? SQ seems to be able to earn with Scoot but cannot find any mention of Scoot on the UA website. The price differential is $150 for a five hour flight so not a deal breaker if Scoot does not earn mileage with MP.
I can fly SQ or Scoot SIN-PER, and am allowing a day for misconnects. I know I can earn mileage with SQ, but is it possible with Scoot? SQ seems to be able to earn with Scoot but cannot find any mention of Scoot on the UA website. The price differential is $150 for a five hour flight so not a deal breaker if Scoot does not earn mileage with MP.
Dec 10, 2018, 8:21 pm
#1671
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SAN
Programs: 1K (since 2008), *G (since 1990), 1MM
Posts: 3,218
No, you cannot earn MP miles on Scoot. I'm a little surprised at your choice though; even with an Aussie I/D transfer it seems less hassle to fly via SYD on a single ticket than a split-ticket in SIN, and SIN-PER is longer than SYD-PER. I guess it could be cheaper though, since SIN has really cheap W fares?
Last edited by Aussienarelle; Dec 11, 2018 at 12:54 pm
Dec 10, 2018, 11:49 pm
#1672
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Much less expensive and PZ available. Flight SYD-PER is about the same as SIN-PER time wise. I will actually be in SYD the month before for four weeks so no need to stop over in SYD and more expensive to fly SFO-SYD vs SFO-SIN (the SAN piece is only minor) and only one PZ leg is confirmed. So will have a day in SIN each way. It would be nice to have UA help fly *A to PER, but SQ (in coach) will be nice.
SIN is one of my favorite places to overnight.
Dec 11, 2018, 7:50 am
#1673
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Platinum Elite, National Executive, United Gold
Posts: 1,181
Looking at upgrading a future GRU-ORD-LAX itinerary - if PZ is available on GRU-ORD but not on ORD-LAX, that means I'll be confirmed in business on GRU-ORD and waitlisted on ORD-LAX correct? The full itinerary currently shows PZ = 0.
Dec 11, 2018, 7:52 am
#1674
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Dec 11, 2018, 11:04 pm
#1675
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: UA 1K/MM, EK Gold, CX Silver
Posts: 880
Upgraded with GPU on transatlantic, but have a continuation without stopover in Y (W) with LH on same ticket. Will I still get 3 bags of 70lbs (1K) checked right through? Most Significant Carrier rules should apply, shouldn't they?
Dec 11, 2018, 11:14 pm
#1676
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If you have a return flight, and your first flight is with LH, you will not get 3x70; you'll get the underlying economy allowance for the fare, plus one bag for *G.
Dec 12, 2018, 8:09 am
#1677
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: CLE/RSW
Programs: Marriot Lifetime Plat
Posts: 206
Ticket Reissue
I had a paid P fare ticket booked roundtrip CLE-BOS-FRA-FCO-ORD-CLE. Recently United decided to eliminate the CLE-BOS route 
so my ticket would need rebooked. The CLE-BOS flight was an ERJ145 so I was booked into a Y fare for that leg, all others were P. BOS-FRA-FCO were on LH metal. Before I call in to rebook, I wanted to know what my rights are so I know how to handle the call.
Thanks in advance. If it makes any difference I have UA Gold status.
so my ticket would need rebooked. The CLE-BOS flight was an ERJ145 so I was booked into a Y fare for that leg, all others were P. BOS-FRA-FCO were on LH metal. Before I call in to rebook, I wanted to know what my rights are so I know how to handle the call.- Am I entitled to any kind of rerouting or are they only obligated to get me to BOS to finish my original itinerary?
- Since the CLE-BOS leg was a Y fare, would that be the fare class that any other replacement legs changed to would be booked in? E.g. if I get routed CLE-EWR-BOS-etc, what fares are they obligated to book for CLE-EWR-BOS? Y, P, or any other economy fare?
- I booked this routing based on price, I presume since the elimination of the CLE-BOS route is their problem, I wouldn't be charged for any changes or new routing?
- If all else fails, would this type of change entitle me to a refund if I decide enough if enough and to rebook on another carrier?
Thanks in advance. If it makes any difference I have UA Gold status.
Dec 12, 2018, 8:27 am
#1678
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I had a paid P fare ticket booked roundtrip CLE-BOS-FRA-FCO-ORD-CLE. Recently United decided to eliminate the CLE-BOS route so my ticket would need rebooked. The CLE-BOS flight was an ERJ145 so I was booked into a Y fare for that leg, all others were P. BOS-FRA-FCO were on LH metal. Before I call in to rebook, I wanted to know what my rights are so I know how to handle the call.
Thanks in advance. If it makes any difference I have UA Gold status.
so my ticket would need rebooked. The CLE-BOS flight was an ERJ145 so I was booked into a Y fare for that leg, all others were P. BOS-FRA-FCO were on LH metal. Before I call in to rebook, I wanted to know what my rights are so I know how to handle the call.- Am I entitled to any kind of rerouting or are they only obligated to get me to BOS to finish my original itinerary?
- Since the CLE-BOS leg was a Y fare, would that be the fare class that any other replacement legs changed to would be booked in? E.g. if I get routed CLE-EWR-BOS-etc, what fares are they obligated to book for CLE-EWR-BOS? Y, P, or any other economy fare?
- I booked this routing based on price, I presume since the elimination of the CLE-BOS route is their problem, I wouldn't be charged for any changes or new routing?
- If all else fails, would this type of change entitle me to a refund if I decide enough if enough and to rebook on another carrier?
Thanks in advance. If it makes any difference I have UA Gold status.
2. CLE-BOS was almost certainly not a Y fare, but was rather a Y seat assignment on a P fare. Therefore, you should be eligible for a first-class seat from CLE; however, you may need to HUCA a couple of times to get someone who understands it. Be polite, and don't escalate unless it's absolutely the last resort (i.e., try several calls before escalating). You don't want a note in your record.
3. Correct; there will be no charge to make a change to anything "reasonable." CLE-EWR-FCO, or CLE-EWR-FRA-FCO, shouldn't be a problem. CLE-SFO-NRT-FRA-FCO probably won't fly.
4, Almost certainly.
Dec 12, 2018, 8:49 am
#1679
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: CLE/RSW
Programs: Marriot Lifetime Plat
Posts: 206
1. While you're not "entitled" to a rerouting, UA is typically very good about this kind of thing.
2. CLE-BOS was almost certainly not a Y fare, but was rather a Y seat assignment on a P fare. Therefore, you should be eligible for a first-class seat from CLE; however, you may need to HUCA a couple of times to get someone who understands it. Be polite, and don't escalate unless it's absolutely the last resort (i.e., try several calls before escalating). You don't want a note in your record.
3. Correct; there will be no charge to make a change to anything "reasonable." CLE-EWR-FCO, or CLE-EWR-FRA-FCO, shouldn't be a problem. CLE-SFO-NRT-FRA-FCO probably won't fly.
4, Almost certainly.
2. CLE-BOS was almost certainly not a Y fare, but was rather a Y seat assignment on a P fare. Therefore, you should be eligible for a first-class seat from CLE; however, you may need to HUCA a couple of times to get someone who understands it. Be polite, and don't escalate unless it's absolutely the last resort (i.e., try several calls before escalating). You don't want a note in your record.
3. Correct; there will be no charge to make a change to anything "reasonable." CLE-EWR-FCO, or CLE-EWR-FRA-FCO, shouldn't be a problem. CLE-SFO-NRT-FRA-FCO probably won't fly.
4, Almost certainly.
Dec 12, 2018, 9:03 am
#1680
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Platinum Elite, National Executive, United Gold
Posts: 1,181
I would also mention to do some research on what your specific routing would be - whether it be the EWR or ORD nonstop to FCO and the associated connecting flight to CLE. In my experience, it seems easier to feed the flight numbers to the agents versus telling them high-level what you would prefer. Also in this situation, it is likely easier for the UA agents to open up P availability on UA metal flights versus finding P fares on LH TATL flights.