[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight
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May 28, 22, 3:29 pm
#781
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: YVR
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 850
Looking to book UA362 HNL-EWR 772 on July 5; G class and planning to use 20 points. It is RN4 so can clear into PE right now. But obviously want to go for Polaris. J8/C5 right now. Am I right that my chances aren't good at it considering it's the day after 4th of July?
May 28, 22, 3:37 pm
#782
Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: UA 2MM
Posts: 1,534
Originally Posted by kevflyer
Looking to book UA362 HNL-EWR 772 on July 5; G class and planning to use 20 points. It is RN4 so can clear into PE right now. But obviously want to go for Polaris. J8/C5 right now. Am I right that my chances aren't good at it considering it's the day after 4th of July?
Last edited by N104UA; May 28, 22 at 3:42 pm
May 28, 22, 7:26 pm
#783
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Honolulu Harbor
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 12,331
Originally Posted by 2ptraveler
Hi all,
Booked a flight for 2
June 22
DEN-LAX-HNL
1075 - 1431
(currently shows 12 open F on the HNL 757-300)
17.5K/person to waitlisk
June 28
HNL-SFO-DEN
724 - 1451
(currently shows only 6 open F of the 28 F on the HNL-SFO (777-200 (layout 3 or 4) )
25K/person to waitlist…
Booked a flight for 2
June 22
DEN-LAX-HNL
1075 - 1431
(currently shows 12 open F on the HNL 757-300)
17.5K/person to waitlisk
June 28
HNL-SFO-DEN
724 - 1451
(currently shows only 6 open F of the 28 F on the HNL-SFO (777-200 (layout 3 or 4) )
25K/person to waitlist…
Originally Posted by kevflyer
Looking to book UA362 HNL-EWR 772 on July 5; G class and planning to use 20 points. It is RN4 so can clear into PE right now. But obviously want to go for Polaris. J8/C5 right now. Am I right that my chances aren't good at it considering it's the day after 4th of July?
Last edited by WineCountryUA; May 28, 22 at 7:49 pm Reason: merged consecutive posts by same member
May 28, 22, 7:52 pm
#784
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: DEN
Programs: UA Platinum, HH Diamond, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 38
Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
Your chances of CPU as Plat LAX to HNL is zero. Marginally better w/ Plus Points. You have no chance of upgrade (CPU or Plus Points) HNL-SFO. If you want First on latter, you’ll have to buy it.
RE: PP, I was told miles and PP are equal and then other qualifiers kick in, status, cards, spend,
We flew Dec 2020 LAX-HNL and cleared the last 2 seats on a 772
I wish they flew more DEN-HNL on the 772 or 77w that has the PP seating, seems like better odds to get something. Still a little bummed I flew so much more (for me) last year and missed 1K by 4 segments but around $4K PQP. The offer to upgrade was like $6500, crazy.
May 28, 22, 7:53 pm
#785
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: DEN
Programs: UA Platinum, HH Diamond, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 38
Originally Posted by jsloan
Your chances are near zero either way. If UA doesn’t sell every seat — which, based on their inventory numbers at the moment, they think they can do — you’re going to find that many (most?) of the 1Ks on that flight will have listed for an upgrade with PlusPoints, which would put them ahead of you even if you use miles. Not because they used PlusPoints, mind you — PlusPoints and miles are treated as equivalent instruments — but because a 1K on an instrument will be ahead of a Plat on an instrument.
If you do decide to try using the miles, you may want to call and ask that they apply them only to the overwater leg; the rule where you can get the domestic upgrade for free if the overwater leg doesn’t clear only applies to Polaris-marketed segments, which LAX-HNL and HNL-SFO are not. (It’s probably a moot point, as your chances as a Plat on a hub-to-hub route are probably even worse than your chances on the Hawaii route, but you never know when massive IRROPS could pop up).
Your best bet for getting the upgrade is to watch your reservation for an attractive cash upgrade offer.
If you do decide to try using the miles, you may want to call and ask that they apply them only to the overwater leg; the rule where you can get the domestic upgrade for free if the overwater leg doesn’t clear only applies to Polaris-marketed segments, which LAX-HNL and HNL-SFO are not. (It’s probably a moot point, as your chances as a Plat on a hub-to-hub route are probably even worse than your chances on the Hawaii route, but you never know when massive IRROPS could pop up).
Your best bet for getting the upgrade is to watch your reservation for an attractive cash upgrade offer.
I thought the whole thing had to clear.
Yea, that's not gonna work for me. I guess I need to call.
P.S. I'm sure it's been answered, but why are all these hub connect flights out of DEN to LAX and return through SFO?
Is it just the domestic routes that are driving this?
Last edited by 2ptraveler; May 28, 22 at 7:55 pm Reason: p.s.
May 28, 22, 8:59 pm
#786
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 15,901
Originally Posted by 2ptraveler
RE: PP, I was told miles and PP are equal and then other qualifiers kick in, status, cards, spend,
Originally Posted by 2ptraveler
We flew Dec 2020 LAX-HNL and cleared the last 2 seats on a 772
Originally Posted by 2ptraveler
I wish they flew more DEN-HNL on the 772 or 77w that has the PP seating, seems like better odds to get something.
Originally Posted by 2ptraveler
Thanks, What I'm hearing is that if the DEN-LAX (or return SFO-DEN) waitlist clears and the overwater legs don't, they'll still take the miles?
I thought the whole thing had to clear.
I thought the whole thing had to clear.
Originally Posted by 2ptraveler
P.S. I'm sure it's been answered, but why are all these hub connect flights out of DEN to LAX and return through SFO?
Is it just the domestic routes that are driving this?
Is it just the domestic routes that are driving this?
May 29, 22, 2:11 am
#787
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SNA (home), LAX, BOM/PNQ, LHR
Programs: UA Platinum/*G, Marriott Gold Elite, IHG Platinum, HHonors Silver
Posts: 923
Wuestion: Tomorrow at 11:45pm PST (check in time) assuming 15 or less people buy a ticket between now and then, everyone should be purged from the waitlist at check in right? thanks!
(I say 15 because if 15 people buy then that leaves 10 open seats and all 8 clear with 2 open seats which they typically like to leave open).
(I say 15 because if 15 people buy then that leaves 10 open seats and all 8 clear with 2 open seats which they typically like to leave open).
May 29, 22, 6:21 am
#788
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 8,251
Originally Posted by flyingrohit
Wuestion: Tomorrow at 11:45pm PST (check in time) assuming 15 or less people buy a ticket between now and then, everyone should be purged from the waitlist at check in right? thanks!
(I say 15 because if 15 people buy then that leaves 10 open seats and all 8 clear with 2 open seats which they typically like to leave open).
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(I say 15 because if 15 people buy then that leaves 10 open seats and all 8 clear with 2 open seats which they typically like to leave open).
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): probably within the hour after check-in everyone on that list with a revenue ticket will clear. I think everyone on that list has a revenue ticket.It's not guaranteed though. Sometimes they just hold the list for unknown reasons.
May 29, 22, 3:18 pm
#789
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SNA (home), LAX, BOM/PNQ, LHR
Programs: UA Platinum/*G, Marriott Gold Elite, IHG Platinum, HHonors Silver
Posts: 923
Originally Posted by fumje
AnsWer (): probably within the hour after check-in everyone on that list with a revenue ticket will clear. I think everyone on that list has a revenue ticket.
It's not guaranteed though. Sometimes they just hold the list for unknown reasons.
): probably within the hour after check-in everyone on that list with a revenue ticket will clear. I think everyone on that list has a revenue ticket.It's not guaranteed though. Sometimes they just hold the list for unknown reasons.
May 30, 22, 9:22 am
#790
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Programs: UA 1K, UA .53 MM, Marriott Gold, Nexus, GE, TSA Pre, Hertz PC
Posts: 570
Elusive CPU: ORD-SFO
UA 2084
Sunday, 5/29/22
ORD-SFO
6:25 PM departure
1K on U fare
I was #6 on the Upgrade List and cleared around T-22, along with 6-7 other pax. What a difference a holiday weekend makes. Can't remember the last time I cleared ORD-SFO on a CPU, let alone had a fighting chance of clearing.
Sunday, 5/29/22
ORD-SFO
6:25 PM departure
1K on U fare
I was #6 on the Upgrade List and cleared around T-22, along with 6-7 other pax. What a difference a holiday weekend makes. Can't remember the last time I cleared ORD-SFO on a CPU, let alone had a fighting chance of clearing.
May 30, 22, 9:29 am
#791
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 8,251
Originally Posted by flyingrohit
oops excuse the misspell, English is not my strength especially at 1am. Sounds good I guess we’ll find out soon enough in 9 hours and will report back the results thanks!
May 30, 22, 1:29 pm
#792
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: TYO
Programs: United Premier Silver
Posts: 39
Originally Posted by cczzll
Yes, asking about PP to Business on EWR > LAX for myself only. (And, perhaps, my husband if I bump him into a PP seat.) My flight from EWR > LAX > NRT was purchased as PP, hence it being an R fare. Originally, my husband was on another EWR > LAX flight but decided it was better if we left for the airport together. Hence the different fare but same flight. I purchased PP for myself to better up my odds of the +P clearing for LAX > NRT at the very least. It'd be nice to be in Business/Polaris that entire day, though, considering I was bumped from a 13hr nonstop to 20 hrs of travel and have to pick up pets from the kennel in Tokyo the day I land. I tend to stay up all night before flights to sleep on planes and adjust to Japan time.
I'll call at check in for my husband to get in E+. He is 6'6", so E+ really helps him. He's just too cheap to spring for expensive seats since he doesn't fly often!! (While I do for work).
I'll call at check in for my husband to get in E+. He is 6'6", so E+ really helps him. He's just too cheap to spring for expensive seats since he doesn't fly often!! (While I do for work).
May 30, 22, 2:15 pm
#793
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: New York City
Programs: UA GS 1MM
Posts: 180
Originally Posted by benewr
UGH ! CDG-EWR is now down to J5 C5 D2 and the EWR-CDG is now full full since they cancellee the 2d flight and consolidated everyone in the 6:30pm 😡😡😡
Flight was 57 +1 blocked 3h before departure.
#1 cleared before boarding
#2 and #3 cleared into PP before boarding then into Polaris right after boarding.
2 more pax cleared into Polaris too.
So everyone was happy !!
May 30, 22, 8:40 pm
#794
Join Date: Jan 2020
Programs: Star Alliance, UA MileagePlus
Posts: 3
Looking to apply pluspoints on UA1 SFO-SIN on 7/30. The inventory is a bit surprising to me (D0 Z0 ZN0 P0 PN0 PZ0) but there are still 37 open seats in Polaris according to the seat map.
Also applying for PP which is currently 07 ON7 R0 RN0.
Do I have any chance at these levels given the current waitlists?
Also applying for PP which is currently 07 ON7 R0 RN0.
Do I have any chance at these levels given the current waitlists?
May 30, 22, 9:15 pm
#795
Moderator: United Airlines; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.85MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 59,289
Originally Posted by Double IPA
...The inventory is a bit surprising to me (D0 Z0 ZN0 P0 PN0 PZ0) but there are still 37 open seats in Polaris according to the seat map.
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Do I have any chance at these levels given the current waitlists?
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Do I have any chance at these levels given the current waitlists?
The old saw about fare classes and upgrades has been upended with recent pricing practices, UA is betting on a strong demand filling most of the seats even at extraordinary high price. This may maximize the revenue but may not fill the seats. If UA does fill the seats, the lower fare classes and upgrade inventory will open up --- may not be until very close to departure, if ever. It a bit of RM bluffing. UA and others are betting demand will capitulate to the high prices, time will tell. Its appears to be working domestically, it worked for PVG, timel will tell if it will work for SIN.
