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Old Aug 28, 18, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
Lately UA has been opening R on the TPACs in the 6-8 week window, so it may be a little early to be buying flights for November if you're looking to upgrade.

It would be helpful to know the booking numbers though (Flight Status Tool). That's really critical to assessing upgrade odds.
Any knowledge on when they open up Europe R space?
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Old Aug 28, 18, 12:38 pm
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What is the general consensus on the best days to fly to Europe to get R space? Wednesday? Tuesday? I'm looking to fly to Europe in Sep or Oct and am looking for R space for the night flight over. I am willing to go where the R space is in Europe, and I want to confirm the upgrade at booking. Any routes that are better than others? I'm willing to fly from IAD or DCA to EWR, ORD, or even IAH for a better chance. Thanks in advance. I'm looking very hard but can't find much. I guess it hasn't opened yet.
For Europe, I usually have good luck upgrading on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. When I book my tickets, I never find R space but always end up clearing on the ORD-MUC and MUC-ORD. Sometimes, the R space opens 2 months before my flight, sometimes 1 month before, sometimes 4 days before, sometimes at check-in and sometimes when I'm already sitting in the plane.

I know another FTer who always seems to have good luck with the upgrade clearing on routes to LHR.

The problem is if you wait for R to open to purchase your ticket, you might miss it when you plan to fly in the next two months.

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Old Aug 28, 18, 12:44 pm
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Any knowledge on when they open up Europe R space?
I don't really follow the Europe flights. From SFO it's mostly pointless. If they open R, it's random and unpredictable. I just look for discount J fares for Europe.
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Old Aug 28, 18, 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
I don't really follow the Europe flights. From SFO it's mostly pointless. If they open R, it's random and unpredictable. I just look for discount J fares for Europe.
I have better luck finding P fares to Asia than to Europe. For Asia, if I find anything below $4,000, I purchase Polaris Business outright. For Europe, I have not been able to determine yet the number where I should purchase Polaris Business outright but with prices at $7,000 when I need to travel there it's not going to happen. I need advice of what you would consider a good price for Polaris Business to Europe. Thank you!
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Old Aug 28, 18, 1:12 pm
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IME, it's rare to find R space on NRT-IAH. When I've looked, the availability is, more-or-less in order, NRT-GUM, NRT-LAX, NRT-DEN, KIX-SFO, HND-SFO, NRT-ORD, NRT-SFO, NRT-IAD, NRT-IAH, NRT-EWR, NRT-HNL. (Admittedly, I don't always check NRT-HNL, because R space ex-HNL is so hard to find).
Huh, the one (and only, I admit) time I checked on NRT-HNL, it was over by at least 30 in the back and nearly into double op-up territory (fewer paid J than blocked F from the Y oversale). ymmv, I guess

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What is the general consensus on the best days to fly to Europe to get R space? Wednesday? Tuesday? I'm looking to fly to Europe in Sep or Oct and am looking for R space for the night flight over. I am willing to go where the R space is in Europe, and I want to confirm the upgrade at booking. Any routes that are better than others? I'm willing to fly from IAD or DCA to EWR, ORD, or even IAH for a better chance. Thanks in advance. I'm looking very hard but can't find much. I guess it hasn't opened yet.
Tuesday or Wednesday, via ORD or IAD (in that order). September is a very tough month because it's when everyone gets back to work after the holiday period; if you can stretch into the second half of October you will get much better odds (but a colder, dimmer Europe).
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Old Aug 28, 18, 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by StuckinITH View Post
I have better luck finding P fares to Asia than to Europe. For Asia, if I find anything below $4,000, I purchase Polaris Business outright. For Europe, I have not been able to determine yet the number where I should purchase Polaris Business outright but with prices at $7,000 when I need to travel there it's not going to happen. I need advice of what you would consider a good price for Polaris Business to Europe. Thank you!
Well it varies by location. Ex-SFO, we've had discount fares to some combination of BUD, MXP, and BEG (all of which are currently off), ranging from $2800-3600, for much of the past two years. Though right now, it's pretty tough to find anything under $4 or $5k, which is generally above my pain threshold.

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Tuesday or Wednesday, via ORD or IAD (in that order). September is a very tough month because it's when everyone gets back to work after the holiday period; if you can stretch into the second half of October you will get much better odds (but a colder, dimmer Europe).
September is brutal. Trade fairs.
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Old Aug 28, 18, 3:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
Well it varies by location. Ex-SFO, we've had discount fares to some combination of BUD, MXP, and BEG (all of which are currently off), ranging from $2800-3600, for much of the past two years. Though right now, it's pretty tough to find anything under $4 or $5k, which is generally above my pain threshold.
Thank you! That helps me. I guess I should keep the same limit of $4,000 for Asia and Europe. And when it's above that hope that my waitlisted instrument clears.
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Old Aug 28, 18, 3:07 pm
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Originally Posted by StuckinITH View Post
For Europe, I usually have good luck upgrading on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. When I book my tickets, I never find R space but always end up clearing on the ORD-MUC and MUC-ORD. Sometimes, the R space opens 2 months before my flight, sometimes 1 month before, sometimes 4 days before, sometimes at check-in and sometimes when I'm already sitting in the plane.

I know another FTer who always seems to have good luck with the upgrade clearing on routes to LHR.

The problem is if you wait for R to open to purchase your ticket, you might miss it when you plan to fly in the next two months.
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I don't really follow the Europe flights. From SFO it's mostly pointless. If they open R, it's random and unpredictable. I just look for discount J fares for Europe.
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Huh, the one (and only, I admit) time I checked on NRT-HNL, it was over by at least 30 in the back and nearly into double op-up territory (fewer paid J than blocked F from the Y oversale). ymmv, I guess



Tuesday or Wednesday, via ORD or IAD (in that order). September is a very tough month because it's when everyone gets back to work after the holiday period; if you can stretch into the second half of October you will get much better odds (but a colder, dimmer Europe).
Thank you all. I was able to find R space actually from IAD to a couple of places. Will share details after I book tonight (yes, I am that paranoid).
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Old Aug 28, 18, 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
Well it varies by location. Ex-SFO, we've had discount fares to some combination of BUD, MXP, and BEG (all of which are currently off), ranging from $2800-3600, for much of the past two years. Though right now, it's pretty tough to find anything under $4 or $5k, which is generally above my pain threshold.
OTP also - I think we've been spoiled with the deals lately

LHR is $2,500 right now, but with the 180-day AP it's not the business travel savior that the eastern European fares were.
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Old Aug 28, 18, 7:59 pm
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I got OTP for about $3K out of LAX.

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OTP also - I think we've been spoiled with the deals lately

LHR is $2,500 right now, but with the 180-day AP it's not the business travel savior that the eastern European fares were.
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Old Aug 28, 18, 8:13 pm
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EWR - NRT 9/8 with GPUís

Well been following this flight for abt a month and a half now for my Gs 1mm comped gf and I since I wanted to get to Japan days ahead of the flight we were previously booked which had PN and instant Polaris access. The 9/8 was wide open at the time and figured Iíd roll the dice. Well itís gone from 30+ J open to 25, 24,20 and now 14 just in abt a week. Ugh. Sure its still probable but a sat nrt flight goes full? Iíll be looking at t-72 but if the trend is my friend here I might not even get to do that!
We are supposedly #1 and #2 on the list but just heard today from the GS desk of a rev Y Gs comes in with a gpu youíre trumped. Were XN waiting for PN Iím 2
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Think we can do it?? Ugh.... grrr.
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Old Aug 28, 18, 9:02 pm
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a sat nrt flight goes full?....
it arrives Sunday afternoon and allows doing business on Monday. Probably the peak travel choice for business travel
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Old Aug 28, 18, 9:11 pm
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it arrives Sunday afternoon and allows doing business on Monday. Probably the peak travel choice for business travel
Yup. Toughest day of the week for westbound TPAC.
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Old Aug 28, 18, 11:28 pm
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We are supposedly #1 and #2 on the list but just heard today from the GS desk of a rev Y Gs comes in with a gpu youíre trumped. Were XN waiting for PN Iím 2 gpus.
Slightly worse than that; you'd be behind any revenue passenger upgrading using a GS instrument (or GS miles). Flying XN, you have the lowest priority among GS instruments. (Then again: if you were a 1K, you couldn't upgrade economy award tickets with a GPU, so...)

Inventory on your flight is J9 C2 D0. That's a strong indication that UA believes it can sell the rest of the business inventory. It makes some sense, too; you're likely to get slightly more business travel than average that week, because some percentage of trips that otherwise would have been the previous week will get pushed back due to the holiday.

Also, I'm afraid you're committing a classic blunder. (Not quite as bad as getting involved in a land war in Asia, or going in against a Sicilian when death is on the line, but...) The seat map isn't a reliable indicator of load. Your flight's status page indicates that 50 seats are currently booked (look at the upgrade tab).
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Old Aug 29, 18, 12:17 pm
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IAD-BRU and IAD-GVA have R space on Oct 11 and I believe Oct 18 too if anyone is looking for IAD-Europe R space. Can go anywhere from those two places in Europe due to SN and LX.
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