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"Home for the holidays": Pilot program to hold flights for delayed connections.

"Home for the holidays": Pilot program to hold flights for delayed connections.

Old Dec 13, 17, 7:27 pm
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"Home for the holidays": Pilot program to hold flights for delayed connections.

On board 1129, DEN-BUR, and we're still at the gate 22 minutes after final boarding.

Just overheard flight supervisor explain to FAs that they are piloting a "Home for the holidays" program. Apparently, they're holding flights at the gate for delayed connections if it's the last flight of the night.

Pilot made a nice announcement reassuring folks that we'll make up the time in flight. Pretty cool customer experience... Well done, Oscar.
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Old Dec 13, 17, 8:35 pm
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I guess they'll take the extra fuel burn as an expense?

Nice gesture.
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Old Dec 13, 17, 8:37 pm
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Hope they keep this going widely—somewhat selfishly, as I have a tight connection in a couple weeks trying to make it 'home for the holidays'.
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Old Dec 13, 17, 9:03 pm
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Well, they're obviously not waiting on catering, that's for sure.

But seriously, that's pretty fantastic. It injects some heart into the travel experience and I applaud the initiative.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 3:34 am
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Interesting. I'm not sure how or why this is a program or requires one. I have been on many UA flights, nowhere near the holidays, that are held at the gate for late connecting passengers when it's the last flight of the night. IAH-SEA was notorious for this.

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Old Dec 14, 17, 4:58 am
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Wonder what the longest they would hold a flight would be? I guess they have to factor in the crew time-out limits.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 5:37 am
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Originally Posted by RobOnLI View Post
Interesting. I'm not sure how or why this is a program or requires one. I have been on many UA flights, nowhere near the holidays, that are held at the gate for late connecting passengers when it's the last flight of the night. IAH-SEA was notorious for this.

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Same here. Seems odd to me, but if it is a network wide effort rather than just local GA's doing a good deed, I think it's a nice idea. Just don't make the 100 people already on the plane late for their connections!
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Old Dec 14, 17, 8:41 am
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If they've padded block time enough, I assume they can make up the time in the air.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by JBord View Post
Just don't make the 100 people already on the plane late for their connections!
That's what I worry about. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by tarheelnj View Post
Wonder what the longest they would hold a flight would be? I guess they have to factor in the crew time-out limits.
And on time stats!
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Old Dec 14, 17, 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman View Post
That's what I worry about. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
In the example given, we're talking about the last flight of the night to an outstation. I don't think they're going to be doing this to SFO with 50 people connecting to SYD...
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Old Dec 14, 17, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by NoLaGent View Post
In the example given, we're talking about the last flight of the night to an outstation. I don't think they're going to be doing this to SFO with 50 people connecting to SYD...
OK, so the next morning's departure from the outstation is late (FAA mandatory rest) and all of those people miss connections.

There is no free lunch. Targeting 'last connection of the day' passengers is sensible.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by RobOnLI View Post
Interesting. I'm not sure how or why this is a program or requires one. I have been on many UA flights, nowhere near the holidays, that are held at the gate for late connecting passengers when it's the last flight of the night. IAH-SEA was notorious for this.

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I've spent many a night sleeping in a cheap hotel, listening to traffic on Century Blvd, when the last flight of the night went on time, only to have it sit at a gate in LAS for about 6 hours.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 1:35 pm
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I guess they'll take the extra fuel burn as an expense?

Nice gesture.
If they're still at the gate waiting for more pax, wouldn't they be on ground power (and not the APU)?
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Old Dec 14, 17, 1:40 pm
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If they're still at the gate waiting for more pax, wouldn't they be on ground power (and not the APU)?
flying faster to make up time is less efficient than flying at an optimum speed. Iím no fluid dynamics expert, but I believe resistance is proportional to the square of velocity.
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