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Originally Posted by EWR764
(Post 29169125)
UA115 SFO-PPT 1445 2025 788 247
UA114 PPT-SFO 2345 1050+1 788 247 So a relatively quick turn, daylight southbound and redeye return, 3 days per week, 788 service. ~8h. Unclear if seasonal. Bookable now on United.com, but no discount revenue fares or award buckets available yet. Connects neatly with SFO-CDG, <2h layovers in both directions, also 788, possible same plane service on the days SFO-PPT operates (not that it really matters). UA990 SFO-CDG 1450 0935+1 788 UA984 CDG-SFO 0910 1250 788 We will operate nonstop service, three-times weekly with Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft between San Francisco and Fa'a'ā International Airport (PPT), beginning on October 30, 2018 through March 28, 2019. (Subject to government approval.) |
The SFO departure timing makes sense given the availability of gates at that time and, importantly, when an Asia departure goes mechanical, the PPT aircraft will instead be used and the PPT flight will get delayed/cancelled.
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Originally Posted by halls120
(Post 29168656)
This is about responding to competition...
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
(Post 29169989)
Do you think they're that anxious to kill French Blue on SFO-PAR 2x weekly? It's a small fraction of what AF is putting into the market (daily 380 and 777 in July). I can't see United (previously) really caring about competition on SFO-PPT.
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Seasonal SFO-PPT beginning Oct 2018
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Originally Posted by EWR764
(Post 29167883)
The complicating factor, as it is with the existing CDG-LAX-PPT flights, is that transit pax must clear US customs on the intermediate stop, despite CDG-PPT being technically a domestic route. Geography is such that there really are no other, more favorable routing options.
And will UA be required to have French speaking FA's on this route? I know all the Tahiti Nui staff I've met are bi-lingual. |
Originally Posted by stimpy
(Post 29170213)
I know that used to be the case, but is it still true? I flew BA from LHR to MIA recently and onboard they said that anyone continuing on an AA flight to south or central America did not have to clear customs at MIA.
And will UA be required to have French speaking FA's on this route? I know all the Tahiti Nui staff I've met are bi-lingual. There is no requirement for French-speaking flight attendants on any routes, but UA will staff language-qualified crewmembers on certain international routes for customer service reasons. I suspect SFOPPT will have French speakers. |
Originally Posted by stimpy
(Post 29170213)
And will UA be required to have French speaking FA's on this route? I know all the Tahiti Nui staff I've met are bi-lingual.
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I'm very curious to see how the route does... even a 788 feels very premium-heavy for the demand profile. I do note, however, that SFO-PPT is shorter than ORD-HNL so this is presumably in range for a 77G instead.
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The initial fare I am seeing in business class is around $4,400 round trip. I doubt there will be many takers at that price.
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Lot's of PN space on every flight for those fortunate GS members...
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No saver awards loaded. Business Everyday is 175k and Economy is at 80k.
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Originally Posted by RichardInSF
(Post 29170427)
The initial fare I am seeing in business class is around $4,400 round trip. I doubt there will be many takers at that price.
Playing around with random dates they look exactly in line with the AA/TN and DL/AF flight options in J. SFO - PPT on UA J direct is only $200 more than SFO - LAX - PPT on AF/DL, seems like a small premium for a direct ex-SFO vs. having to connect via LAX. |
Originally Posted by jmanirish
(Post 29170428)
Lot's of PN space on every flight for those fortunate GS members...
T->XN + GPU = biz award. |
Originally Posted by Duke787
(Post 29170481)
Why is that? It doesn't seem that extreme UA is one of only two lie-flat options in the market and they are the only lie-flat option if you don't have an easy LAX connection to get the Air France flight.
Playing around with random dates they look exactly in line with the AA/TN and DL/AF flight options in J. SFO - PPT on UA J direct is only $200 more than SFO - LAX - PPT on AF/DL, seems like a small premium for a direct ex-SFO vs. having to connect via LAX. If nobody likes it at $4400, there's plenty of time to discount it. |
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