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It's SFO-PPT 788 starts October 30 2018.


United Airlines adds the South Pacific's Most Stunning Tropical Paradise to its Growing List of New Routes

Tahiti becomes the 13th international route announced by the airline in 2017
United's new nonstop flight from SFO to Tahiti connects customers to beautiful beaches, overwater bungalows, coral atolls and forested volcanoes

SAN FRANCISCO, Dec. 13, 2017 -- United Airlines (UAL), the leading carrier in the San Francisco Bay Area, today announced it will begin service between San Francisco and Pape'ete, the capital of Tahiti, the South Pacific's gateway to more than 118 islands in French Polynesia including Bora Bora, Moorea, the Marquesas and Raiatea. United is the only U.S. carrier offering nonstop service to Tahiti from the mainland United States. Tickets are now available for purchase.

"We are excited to announce Tahiti as our 13th new international route this year, and we are even more thrilled about offering our customers a whole new world of vacation opportunities," said Patrick Quayle, United's vice president of International Network. "We know our customers want more destinations to choose from to escape the winter weather, and we look forward to being the airline that connects them to this corner of paradise.

"United's service from San Francisco will connect customers to the South Pacific's most pristine waters, white sand beaches, stunning turquoise lagoons, coral atolls and volcanic mountain peaks. Visitors to the islands experience a tropical paradise and countless spaces to relax and reconnect in natural beauty and authentic French Polynesian island culture.

United will operate nonstop service, three times weekly with Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft between its San Francisco hub and Fa'a'ā International Airport (PPT), beginning Oct. 30, 2018, through March 28, 2019, subject to government approval.
Winter 2018 schedule Subject to government approval
UA 115 SFO PPT Tues/Thurs/Sun 2:45 p.m. - 9:25 p.m
UA 114 PPT SFO Tues/Thurs/Sun 11:45 p.m. - 9:50 a.m. next day
*Flight Times Subject to Change

United's Long History Connecting Customers to the Pacific Islands
United's love affair with the Pacific islands started more than 70 years ago and continues today. It began in 1947 with United's first flight across the Pacific from San Francisco to Honolulu, making the Hawaiian Islands an easily accessible destination for tourism and business. Today, United offers more flights between the mainland and the Hawaiian Islands than any other U.S. carrier.

In 1968, United expanded its Pacific network linking the Hawaiian Islands, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia and Guam. Today, nearly half a century later, United's Island Hopper - Flight 155 - departs Guam in the morning and makes a series of five, one-hour flights to the islands of Chuuk, Pohnpei, Kosrae; Kwajalein and Majuro. In addition to the airline's popular Island Hopper service, United connects customers from Guam to other island destinations including Palau, Yap and the Philippines.

In 1986, United began nonstop service from its West Coast hubs in the U.S. to Sydney and Melbourne, Australia. Today, United is the largest U.S. carrier to serve Australia, offering the most seats to Sydney and Melbourne with its daily nonstop service from San Francisco and Los Angeles.Building its powerful Pacific network, last year United began nonstop service from San Francisco to Auckland, New Zealand, becoming the largest mainland U.S. carrier to serve the City of Sails.

United's San Francisco Hub
United and United Express operate more than 250 daily flights between San Francisco and 90 destinations throughout North America, Latin America, Asia, Europe and the Caribbean. Beginning in June 2018, United will start nonstop seasonal summer service between San Francisco and Zurich.
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Old Dec 13, 17, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by pseudoswede View Post
I think there are three options...

Great Circle Mapper
While "French domestic". all of those are significantly longer routes
Connecting via SFO is 2 to 3 hours less flight time, and LAX (almost the perfect great circle route) would be a minute or two less than SFO. DEN would be about the same as SFO

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Old Dec 13, 17, 10:11 pm
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So I ran a dummy booking in November and found a $4383.56 R/T business fare that earns 0 PQD. Wow.
New routes tend to show no earning initially, until UA IT gets its stuff together. LAX-SIN did the same.

Originally Posted by HkCaGu View Post
Cancelling a 3x/week flight to a vacation destination isn't going to be good for reputation. However, I can see them holding departure for delayed EU-SFO arrivals. A 2-hour CDG-SFO delay does not trigger 261 compensation, but missing onward SFO-PPT will.
If they're able to grab a significant share of Europe->South Pacific travel, I agree. However, speaking of EU.261/2004... it won't apply to PPT-SFO, which is liable to irritate the first few people who suffer from a cancellation. Overseas territories are not part of the EU.
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Old Dec 13, 17, 10:47 pm
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Originally Posted by pseudoswede View Post
I think there are three options...

Great Circle Mapper
The A350-900ULR will make a fourth (although much longer) routing possible.

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Old Dec 13, 17, 11:26 pm
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This is way cool - I can't wait to fly it.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by kale73 View Post
The A350-900ULR will make a fourth (although much longer) routing possible.

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Air Austral used to run CDG-RUN-SYD-NOU... they could always restart CDG-RUN-SYD-PPT
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Old Dec 14, 17, 6:13 am
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Originally Posted by belfordrocks View Post
Air Austral used to run CDG-RUN-SYD-NOU... they could always restart CDG-RUN-SYD-PPT
Little known, but airlines can and do get legal government subsidies for serving these remote locations.

As for EU rules, that's the difference between DOM and TOM. DOM (Domestic) is a part of the EU. TOM is not.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 6:17 am
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I feel like for once UA is getting it. First KEF and now PPT. Two *Alliance xUS black holes filled. I’d be happy if ORD got a little love but I’ll take what they give me!
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Old Dec 14, 17, 7:24 am
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i guess u get your teeth knocked out then go to vacation
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Old Dec 14, 17, 9:01 am
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Great move by United! Look forward to flying this route. Hope they can sustain it for the long haul. Looks seasonal too which seems odd.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by mh3265a View Post
Great move by United! Look forward to flying this route. Hope they can sustain it for the long haul. Looks seasonal too which seems odd.
Why would seasonal service to a holiday/recreational market appear odd?
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Old Dec 14, 17, 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by transportprof View Post
Why would seasonal service to a holiday/recreational market appear odd?
Only because I feel it's more a recreational route than seasonal and that it could be sustained year long. I suppose they'll see how loads go the first few months and expand if the market allows.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 12:15 pm
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Why would seasonal service to a holiday/recreational market appear odd?
Because high season there is during our summer, so UA will only be flying there during their low season.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Duke787 View Post
Why is that? It doesn't seem that extreme UA is one of only two lie-flat options in the market and they are the only lie-flat option if you don't have an easy LAX connection to get the Air France flight.

Playing around with random dates they look exactly in line with the AA/TN and DL/AF flight options in J. SFO - PPT on UA J direct is only $200 more than SFO - LAX - PPT on AF/DL, seems like a small premium for a direct ex-SFO vs. having to connect via LAX.
The competition to me is not other airlines flying to PPT, but other locations in Asia, many of which have beautiful beaches or important history/sites as well. There are lots and lots of places I can get to in Asia in a lie-flat seat for way less than $4400, so this route isn't something I'd consider.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 3:01 pm
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Originally Posted by EWR764 View Post
Under US-EU Open Skies, UA would be permitted to carry pax from the EU (not just CDG) to PPT over SFO.

The complicating factor, as it is with the existing CDG-LAX-PPT flights, is that transit pax must clear US customs on the intermediate stop, despite CDG-PPT being technically a domestic route. Geography is such that there really are no other, more favorable routing options.
They could do CDG/ORY-PTP-PPT as a domestic route. You'd probably have plenty of room to stretch out on the PTP-PPT segment.
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Old Dec 14, 17, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by RichardInSF View Post
The competition to me is not other airlines flying to PPT, but other locations in Asia, many of which have beautiful beaches or important history/sites as well. There are lots and lots of places I can get to in Asia in a lie-flat seat for way less than $4400, so this route isn't something I'd consider.
I definitely hear that argument but those places are a lot further away than PPT.

I think UA is more going after the West Coast folks who go to Hawaii every year and didn't realize Tahiti was only a couple hours further away and equally as easy (either direct or one hop through SFO) and then offering them a better hard product than the competition at the same price.

Will it work? Who knows but I don't think prices seem particularly crazy from that lenses and when put side by side with the competition
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