GPUs, fare classes, "instant" clearance?
Hi folks,
I apologise up front: I've tried reading the GPU thread, but I don't 100% get some of the nuance and what I can do here. Hoping someone can advise :) Scenario: I'm flying a companion with me from LON to SFO. I already have a business class ticket, and want to get them an economy ticket and upgrade to business. I'm 1K, they have no status. What are the mechanisms I could use to ensure an upgrade? My understanding so far: * If I get them a Y/B ticket, I could use miles to upgrade instantly with no co-pay. * If I get them any other ticket, I could use miles and a co-pay but the upgrade isn't guaranteed (and honestly I don't think they'd get it given that the LHR-SFO flights are usually full in business). * If R>0, I could use a GPU - but I don't know if it will be an instant clear, or if they'll be waitlisted at the bottom of the ladder for having no status? Any advice appreciated :) |
All of the upgrade means you described (GPU, miles, miles+copay) come from the same "R" inventory for clearing. The only difference is what you pay for the underlying airfare and the upgrade costs.
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Originally Posted by Avleen Vig
(Post 29054377)
Hi folks,
I apologise up front: I've tried reading the GPU thread, but I don't 100% get some of the nuance and what I can do here. Hoping someone can advise :) Scenario: I'm flying a companion with me from LON to SFO. I already have a business class ticket, and want to get them an economy ticket and upgrade to business. I'm 1K, they have no status. What are the mechanisms I could use to ensure an upgrade? My understanding so far: * If I get them a Y/B ticket, I could use miles to upgrade instantly with no co-pay. * If I get them any other ticket, I could use miles and a co-pay but the upgrade isn't guaranteed (and honestly I don't think they'd get it given that the LHR-SFO flights are usually full in business). * If R>0, I could use a GPU - but I don't know if it will be an instant clear, or if they'll be waitlisted at the bottom of the ladder for having no status? Any advice appreciated :) If R>0 and they are booked in a fare W or above the GPU will clear automatically regardless of status. |
The only thing you can do to "ensure" they are in business with you is to buy them a business ticket. Any attempt to upgrade them is always going to be a lottery with a very real chance that your friend will end up in Y.
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I have been successful calling the 1k line and give them a window of 4 days to find an instant upgrade (gpu) for my kids then I buy a business ticket on the same flight, they have the ability to look for R>0 over a range of dates
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Originally Posted by alexperi
(Post 29054582)
The only thing you can do to "ensure" they are in business with you is to buy them a business ticket. Any attempt to upgrade them is always going to be a lottery with a very real chance that your friend will end up in Y.
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Originally Posted by Avleen Vig
(Post 29054377)
* If I get them a Y/B ticket, I could use miles to upgrade instantly with no co-pay.
* If I get them any other ticket, I could use miles and a co-pay but the upgrade isn't guaranteed (and honestly I don't think they'd get it given that the LHR-SFO flights are usually full in business). * If R>0, I could use a GPU - but I don't know if it will be an instant clear, or if they'll be waitlisted at the bottom of the ladder for having no status?
Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 29054405)
All of the upgrade means you described (GPU, miles, miles+copay) come from the same "R" inventory for clearing. The only difference is what you pay for the underlying airfare and the upgrade costs.
OP -- I suspect you may have been confused by the "instant" upgrade terminology for Y/B/M fares for 1K. Those upgrades are only applicable on CPU-eligible flights (i.e., not transoceanic) and clear into PN -- meaning that they're still capacity-controlled. |
Originally Posted by jsloan
(Post 29055103)
OP -- I suspect you may have been confused by the "instant" upgrade terminology for Y/B/M fares for 1K. Those upgrades are only applicable on CPU-eligible flights (i.e., not transoceanic) and clear into PN -- meaning that they're still capacity-controlled.
So if there is R inventory, is having the fare required to be booked in W or better? AIUI, W is the highest "deep discount coach" fare. Thanks all! |
Originally Posted by Avleen Vig
(Post 29055338)
So if there is R inventory, is having the fare required to be booked in W or better? AIUI, W is the highest "deep discount coach" fare.
Note that LHR-SFO is a tough upgrade and you're not likely to see advance R. |
Originally Posted by Avleen Vig
(Post 29054377)
* If I get them a Y/B ticket, I could use miles to upgrade instantly with no co-pay... |
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 29055363)
If you want to use a GPU, yes. If you want to use miles, there is no minimum fare class, but a hefty co-pay for lower fare classes.
Note that LHR-SFO is a tough upgrade and you're not likely to see advance R. |
Originally Posted by Avleen Vig
(Post 29055438)
Yeah this was a worry. I was seeing a lot of P>9, PN=0, R=0 which I figured meant loads of GS upgrades are pending (or existing upgrades from Y/B?).
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Originally Posted by Avleen Vig
(Post 29055438)
Yeah this was a worry. I was seeing a lot of P>9, PN=0, R=0 which I figured meant loads of GS upgrades are pending (or existing upgrades from Y/B?). Sadly I don't think I'm close to hitting GS for next year.
Also, Y/B upgrades on LHR-SFO clear into R, the same as any other non-GS upgrade (and I doubt there are many, if any, Y/B fares booked for that route more than a week out). PN clearance for Y/B/(M) is only applicable for the CPU-eligible routes. Think of it as a potentially-accelerated CPU on applicable routes. |
Miles & copay vs. GPU
Flying LAX-PVG in December. Is there any difference between priority for clearance on a G ticket with Miles and Copay upgrade ($600 each way plus 30K miles) vs. purchasing a W fare and using a GPU? Currently inventory is showing R0, However, United.com is allowing me to book a business saver for 70K miles each way even through it also shows I0.
Thanks! |
Originally Posted by 1cericks
(Post 30385277)
Flying LAX-PVG in December. Is there any difference between priority for clearance on a G ticket with Miles and Copay upgrade ($600 each way plus 30K miles) vs. purchasing a W fare and using a GPU?
Originally Posted by 1cericks
(Post 30385277)
Currently inventory is showing R0
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