Nov 8, 2017, 5:41 pm
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Global Services Qualifying Discussion- 2018
Qualification FormPlease only fill out the above form once you are 100% certain that you have made or not made Global Services for 2018.
Qualification Spreadsheet
This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
Use "Global Services 2018 Notifications (ONLY)" to report your actual notification.
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2017
For 2017 qualifications, see the 2017 thread
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Definitions
BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.
2018 GS Qualifying Discussion
Sep 19, 2017, 7:03 pm
#166
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, UA Gold, WN, Global Entry; +others wherever miles/points are found
Posts: 14,404
The benefits are guaranteed GS, and you don't need to stay on UA metal (thread has more info). However, you must of course spend it only on your own tickets, and anything not spent in 12 months is forfeit, so you have no protection for the unforeseen.
Sep 19, 2017, 9:31 pm
#167
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,156
(my own travel is far too volatile otherwise I would have found a way to make PP happen a few years ago...)
Sep 25, 2017, 4:00 am
#168
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Mileage Plus GS, Marriott/SPG Platinum, Hilton Diamond, ITC Platinum
Posts: 30
I think you can extend, but of course I would confirm before purchasing!
Sep 25, 2017, 5:00 am
#169
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Silicon wasteland
Programs: UA 1KMM
Posts: 1,381
Yes see more in http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...solidated.html
Note you are not restricted to just UA flights --
Note you are not restricted to just UA flights --
Sep 25, 2017, 7:20 am
#170
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: DEN
Programs: UA-GS; WN A-list;Hyatt - CC; Hertz - PC
Posts: 644
The last couple of years I have not worried about requalifications. Usually high $40k or low $50k, but this year I'm stretching to get to about $41k. Based out of DEN any thoughts on retaining status with a drop like that? What if I stay in the high $30's?
Sep 25, 2017, 10:55 am
#171
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Pacific
Programs: UA GS, Lifetime 4 MM, BA Gold, , Marriott Lifetime Titanium Elite, Marriott Ambassador Elite
Posts: 476
isn't it about time for somebody to start the 2018 GS Qualification thread?
Sep 25, 2017, 6:34 pm
#173
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: UA GS ,QF Plat
Posts: 686
Questions for the crystal ball readers:
I moved to a UA hub in the US (MP address is in Canada) and have been trying to fly the bulk of my routes on UA in order to get GS. I am trading off the better experience of flying more luxurious carriers in order to improve my domestic and personal international travel upgrade chances.
Flying UA exclusively has proven tricky for two reasons:
Despite these challenges, I will finish the year with the following stats. It’s possible the numbers go up slightly to reflect more domestic travel, but my international trips – both finished and booked – are captured.
Total Spend: $58.5k
UA Metal: $48.5k
BIS: 175k
Intl: 2 in P, 3 in Z, 5 in C/D, 1 in A
Domestic: 25% Y/B/M, 25% in E/U, 50% in the cheaper classes
I suspect my total spend is good, though I don’t know about my UA spend. Also don’t know if UA is going to think I am a hub dweller or not. Thoughts? Worth it to try and get to >$50k on UA?
I moved to a UA hub in the US (MP address is in Canada) and have been trying to fly the bulk of my routes on UA in order to get GS. I am trading off the better experience of flying more luxurious carriers in order to improve my domestic and personal international travel upgrade chances.
Flying UA exclusively has proven tricky for two reasons:
- My company has negotiated rates on virtually all the routes I take. That means I either can’t take UA because another carrier is giving us the best price or that I can take UA, but the price is discounted (hurting GS qualification).
- Even when flying UA, most of my destinations involve a connection to another * carrier. That revenue is part of my 016 ticket, though some believe that only UA metal counts towards GS.
Despite these challenges, I will finish the year with the following stats. It’s possible the numbers go up slightly to reflect more domestic travel, but my international trips – both finished and booked – are captured.
Total Spend: $58.5k
UA Metal: $48.5k
BIS: 175k
Intl: 2 in P, 3 in Z, 5 in C/D, 1 in A
Domestic: 25% Y/B/M, 25% in E/U, 50% in the cheaper classes
I suspect my total spend is good, though I don’t know about my UA spend. Also don’t know if UA is going to think I am a hub dweller or not. Thoughts? Worth it to try and get to >$50k on UA?
The GS qualification number may have been a moving feast in the past two years as the population seems to have exploded.This could just reflect the stronger economy, I am more inclined to think that the bar has been lowered to attract more 1ks who were splitting business between US carriers. I have no data to support the point but >$50k might get you over a filter in the algorithm.
Sep 25, 2017, 7:41 pm
#174
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Mileage Plus GS, Marriott/SPG Platinum, Hilton Diamond, ITC Platinum
Posts: 30
"But how much of the PassPlus spend would count toward 2019 qualification, given it was used to pre-grant status for 2018?"
I don't believe any remaining value counts towards future GS qualification.
I don't believe any remaining value counts towards future GS qualification.
Sep 25, 2017, 9:14 pm
#175
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 150
What do you think my odds of making GS for next year are? My end of year stats should shake out something like this:
based in LAX
PQM ~220,000
Total spend ~$49k but only about $15k on UA (most of my miles have come from international first and business on lufthansa)
About half of my travel is domestic, half international.
based in LAX
PQM ~220,000
Total spend ~$49k but only about $15k on UA (most of my miles have come from international first and business on lufthansa)
About half of my travel is domestic, half international.
Sep 25, 2017, 9:16 pm
#176
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 575
What do you think my odds of making GS for next year are? My end of year stats should shake out something like this:
based in LAX
PQM ~220,000
Total spend ~$49k but only about $15k on UA (most of my miles have come from international first and business on lufthansa)
About half of my travel is domestic, half international.
based in LAX
PQM ~220,000
Total spend ~$49k but only about $15k on UA (most of my miles have come from international first and business on lufthansa)
About half of my travel is domestic, half international.
Sep 25, 2017, 9:29 pm
#177
Moderator: Midwest, Las Vegas & Dining Buzz
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 17,974
Sep 25, 2017, 9:40 pm
#178
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: CHS
Programs: UA GS, Bonvoy Amabassador, Hertz PC
Posts: 2,589
What do you think my odds of making GS for next year are? My end of year stats should shake out something like this:
based in LAX
PQM ~220,000
Total spend ~$49k but only about $15k on UA (most of my miles have come from international first and business on lufthansa)
About half of my travel is domestic, half international.
based in LAX
PQM ~220,000
Total spend ~$49k but only about $15k on UA (most of my miles have come from international first and business on lufthansa)
About half of my travel is domestic, half international.
ONLY UA metal spend counts.....
Sep 26, 2017, 6:45 pm
#179
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
Programs: UA GS 2MM, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Gold, HH Gold
Posts: 23
Questions for the crystal ball readers:
Total Spend: $58.5k
UA Metal: $48.5k
BIS: 175k
Intl: 2 in P, 3 in Z, 5 in C/D, 1 in A
Domestic: 25% Y/B/M, 25% in E/U, 50% in the cheaper classes
I suspect my total spend is good, though I don’t know about my UA spend. Also don’t know if UA is going to think I am a hub dweller or not. Thoughts? Worth it to try and get to >$50k on UA?
Total Spend: $58.5k
UA Metal: $48.5k
BIS: 175k
Intl: 2 in P, 3 in Z, 5 in C/D, 1 in A
Domestic: 25% Y/B/M, 25% in E/U, 50% in the cheaper classes
I suspect my total spend is good, though I don’t know about my UA spend. Also don’t know if UA is going to think I am a hub dweller or not. Thoughts? Worth it to try and get to >$50k on UA?
What do you think my odds of making GS for next year are? My end of year stats should shake out something like this:
based in LAX
PQM ~220,000
Total spend ~$49k but only about $15k on UA (most of my miles have come from international first and business on lufthansa)
About half of my travel is domestic, half international.
based in LAX
PQM ~220,000
Total spend ~$49k but only about $15k on UA (most of my miles have come from international first and business on lufthansa)
About half of my travel is domestic, half international.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Sep 26, 2017 at 7:08 pm Reason: merging consecutive posts by same member -- please use multi-quote
Oct 6, 2017, 11:46 pm
#180
Join Date: Oct 2017
Programs: United GS, Marriott Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 4
New to GS this year (2017), has it been established whether requalification is easier than qualifying the first time?
Will have better stats than last year (should finish with ~$49k UA PQD, ~100k BIS miles, ~180k PQM, out of ORD), but still not quite up there with the heavy hitters on here
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Will have better stats than last year (should finish with ~$49k UA PQD, ~100k BIS miles, ~180k PQM, out of ORD), but still not quite up there with the heavy hitters on here
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