ORD Intl inefficiency due to using different terminals for arrival and departure
Flying in and out of ORD last week got me thinking about this issue. International arriving flights on UA arrive into M; meanwhile, these flights depart out of B or C. Thus, United has to empty out the aircraft at M and tow them over to B or C before loading them up and sending them along to their destination.
Have there been discussions about changing this set up? I’d imagine that having to tow the aircraft like they do simply adds time and cost. Likely takes longer to turn around an aircraft at ORD than at other airports. Why weren’t B and C built with their own Immigration facilities? |
Originally Posted by sannmann
(Post 28967233)
Why weren’t B and C built with their own Immigration facilities?
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Originally Posted by sannmann
(Post 28967233)
Have there been discussions about changing this set up? I’d imagine that having to tow the aircraft like they do simply adds time and cost. Likely takes longer to turn around an aircraft at ORD than at other airports. Why weren’t B and C built with their own Immigration facilities?
That said, I find it supremely annoying to get off an international arrival and have to go take an outdoor airport train, especially in winter, just to connect. |
Originally Posted by drewguy
(Post 28967285)
Do international flights at ORD typically turn immediately?
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I've had numerous Int'l flights delayed out of B/C in ORD due to delays in getting the aircraft towed/pulled from M. Definitely agree it is inefficient.
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There is a plan in the works now to redo the terminals and, as I understand it, add more customs & immigration facilities in the other terminals. Terminal 1 would be greatly expanded by building new branches off of the C concourse, and Terminal 2 would become a hub for Star Alliance international carriers (both for arrivals and departures).
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Originally Posted by sannmann
(Post 28967233)
Likely takes longer to turn around an aircraft at ORD than at other airports.
What insider information of UA's ops do you have to know this is inefficient? Perhaps it's the most efficient use of schedule meeting gate availability. |
Originally Posted by rmadisonwi
(Post 28967402)
There is a plan in the works now to redo the terminals and, as I understand it, add more customs & immigration facilities in the other terminals. Terminal 1 would be greatly expanded by building new branches off of the C concourse, and Terminal 2 would become a hub for Star Alliance international carriers (both for arrivals and departures).
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Originally Posted by JVPhoto
(Post 28967509)
UA can arrive at EWR B and then get towed to C. UA can arrive at LAX TBIT and then get towed to T7.
What insider information of UA's ops do you have to know this is inefficient? Perhaps it's the most efficient use of schedule meeting gate availability. |
Originally Posted by rmadisonwi
(Post 28967402)
There is a plan in the works now to redo the terminals and, as I understand it, add more customs & immigration facilities in the other terminals. Terminal 1 would be greatly expanded by building new branches off of the C concourse, and Terminal 2 would become a hub for Star Alliance international carriers (both for arrivals and departures).
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The Int'l arrivals at ORD is a cess pit
Poor lighting, dirty floors GE exit is not marked, down a dimly lit passageway just Uggghhh |
Originally Posted by Hipplewm
(Post 28967610)
The Int'l arrivals at ORD is a cess pit
Poor lighting, dirty floors GE exit is not marked, down a dimly lit passageway just Uggghhh |
Originally Posted by JVPhoto
(Post 28967509)
UA can arrive at EWR B and then get towed to C. UA can arrive at LAX TBIT and then get towed to T7.
In both cases (LAX/EWR), UA has access to FIS facilities in its 'home' terminal, which greatly simplifies operations and connections. At EWR, the split operation is a space constraint, while at LAX, the limited hours of the T-6/7 FIS will push some flights to TBIT as well. |
Be happy they tow the airplanes
Be happy they don't make you travel from the United Terminals to go to the international terminal to connect to an international flight. You'd have a lot more connections blown in ORD. The train and no pre-check is a major :td:
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I the proposed new Western terminal was supposed to address this for UA (and possibly AA) but they wouldn't buy in to it and I have no idea where that project stands now.
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