Why doesn't UA have a Sunday Red Eye LAS-EWR
Oct 25, 2017, 2:16 pm
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Why doesn't UA have a Sunday Red Eye LAS-EWR
It came as surprise to me that UA's last direct flight on a Sunday during football season LAS-EWR is 2:03pm. Anyone have any idea why. I'm looking at Dec. 17th. I have a hard time believing there isn't enough demand. Jet Blue has 2 to JFK, Delta & Virgin America each have one. Even Spirit has one into EWR.
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Oct 25, 2017, 4:41 pm
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Well - you have to have an available plane - so you fly one out on a red-eye, that means no potential plane in the morning. You have to take into account the plane flying into LAS on a Sunday, probably not much demand. Also have to take into account ticket prices (they seem low, as low as $250 one-way)
Lots of 1-stop options that give you a full day in LAS - another reason for UA to not consider a red-eye.
It is more complicated than demand
Lots of 1-stop options that give you a full day in LAS - another reason for UA to not consider a red-eye.
It is more complicated than demand
Oct 25, 2017, 4:49 pm
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Oct 25, 2017, 5:12 pm
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I could see more people wanting to fly on Monday morning (myself included). I wouldn't want to have to check out of a hotel at Noon and then be stuck without a room until 8-10pm. Probably not going to work anyways Monday morning after being in Vegas and on a red-eye.
Oct 25, 2017, 5:12 pm
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Oct 25, 2017, 6:15 pm
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Maybe they are trying to do a public service by sparing people from seeing their colleagues freshly back from a Vegas weekend with bleary eyes on a Monday morning!
Also, even if EWR is not slot controlled, it sure is gate-limited...
Also, even if EWR is not slot controlled, it sure is gate-limited...
Oct 25, 2017, 6:18 pm
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It's not about demand or loads, it is about PRASM. In order to run the extra service, OP either needs to buy or lease an extra aircraft or it needs to cut some other service somewhere else.
UA runs the numbers every day. If there were a better utilization on a LAS-EWR redeye, there would be a flight.
AA & DL have service, so fly one of them if it is more convenient.
UA runs the numbers every day. If there were a better utilization on a LAS-EWR redeye, there would be a flight.
AA & DL have service, so fly one of them if it is more convenient.
Oct 26, 2017, 6:56 am
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In November, they only run a Sunday redeye the weekend after Thanksgiving. Not enough degenerates wanting to make it to work on Monday I guess
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Oct 26, 2017, 7:44 am
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that period between thanksgiving and christmas is the absolute lowest demand period of the year. United (and others) seem to cut back during that time of year. I see it back into the schedule in January / february, most other periods.