Travel Waiver: Northern California Wildfires (October 11, 2017 - October 15, 2017)
#61
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Regarding another comment upstream regarding approach, over the past couple of days I've seen the incoming EU flights lined up N/S near the coast all the way up to WA on a 180 heading, vs. the normal ~200-210 cutting across SE WA/ID, central OR, and CA. The 747 tankers seem to be operating at 5000 or less, so I don't know if it's the fire ops or smoke or ?? that is causing this unusual fair weather approach scheme. These are LH458 from Sunday and Tuesday.
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Regarding another comment upstream regarding approach, over the past couple of days I've seen the incoming EU flights lined up N/S near the coast all the way up to WA on a 180 heading, vs. the normal ~200-210 cutting across SE WA/ID, central OR, and CA. The 747 tankers seem to be operating at 5000 or less, so I don't know if it's the fire ops or smoke or ?? that is causing this unusual fair weather approach scheme. These are LH458 from Sunday and Tuesday.
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Air in the city seems breathable for the first time all week. It was amazingly clear this morning.
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Just landed at SFO, and I can't remember the last time I saw such a beautiful, clear day over the entire bay.
We overflew 2 fires to the north, but the wind was obviously blowing the smoke from them out to sea well north of the bay area.
Overflying the airport headed south I could make out every single aircraft on the ground, and then as we turned at the very south of the bay even the city was clearly visible.
UA's crystal ball obviously misfired on this one...
We overflew 2 fires to the north, but the wind was obviously blowing the smoke from them out to sea well north of the bay area.
Overflying the airport headed south I could make out every single aircraft on the ground, and then as we turned at the very south of the bay even the city was clearly visible.
UA's crystal ball obviously misfired on this one...
#68
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Just landed at SFO, and I can't remember the last time I saw such a beautiful, clear day over the entire bay.
We overflew 2 fires to the north, but the wind was obviously blowing the smoke from them out to sea well north of the bay area.
Overflying the airport headed south I could make out every single aircraft on the ground, and then as we turned at the very south of the bay even the city was clearly visible.
UA's crystal ball obviously misfired on this one...
We overflew 2 fires to the north, but the wind was obviously blowing the smoke from them out to sea well north of the bay area.
Overflying the airport headed south I could make out every single aircraft on the ground, and then as we turned at the very south of the bay even the city was clearly visible.
UA's crystal ball obviously misfired on this one...
All it takes is one or two degrees difference in the wind direction, and the smoke is down on SFO. I don't think United, their weather folks, or the FAA, who is ultimately responsible for any landing restrictions at SFO(not UA) did anything wrong.
But, as many think here, United is ultimately responsible for everything.
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Just landed at SFO, and I can't remember the last time I saw such a beautiful, clear day over the entire bay.
We overflew 2 fires to the north, but the wind was obviously blowing the smoke from them out to sea well north of the bay area.
Overflying the airport headed south I could make out every single aircraft on the ground, and then as we turned at the very south of the bay even the city was clearly visible.
UA's crystal ball obviously misfired on this one...
We overflew 2 fires to the north, but the wind was obviously blowing the smoke from them out to sea well north of the bay area.
Overflying the airport headed south I could make out every single aircraft on the ground, and then as we turned at the very south of the bay even the city was clearly visible.
UA's crystal ball obviously misfired on this one...
I finally got to open my windows today though, it was a nice break from the terrible air all week.
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Just landed at SFO, and I can't remember the last time I saw such a beautiful, clear day over the entire bay.
We overflew 2 fires to the north, but the wind was obviously blowing the smoke from them out to sea well north of the bay area.
Overflying the airport headed south I could make out every single aircraft on the ground, and then as we turned at the very south of the bay even the city was clearly visible.
UA's crystal ball obviously misfired on this one...
We overflew 2 fires to the north, but the wind was obviously blowing the smoke from them out to sea well north of the bay area.
Overflying the airport headed south I could make out every single aircraft on the ground, and then as we turned at the very south of the bay even the city was clearly visible.
UA's crystal ball obviously misfired on this one...
So, wouldn't you prefer United err on the side of caution? I mean, if they didn't and put a 1-2 delay up, can you imagine the number of posts saying "I can't believe UA didn't see this coming based on the magnitude of the fires".
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Although it's a bit smoky -- and warm (75F) -- in S.F. tonight, the only delay program shown active by the FAA as of 1945 PDT is in Toronto (CYYZ), due to weather and winds.