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United K class fare international flight: Is this subj. to "Basic Econ." rules?

United K class fare international flight: Is this subj. to "Basic Econ." rules?

Old Oct 8, 17, 8:54 pm
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United K class fare international flight: Is this subj. to "Basic Econ." rules?

A few questions about this because I think domestic flights and international basic economy have different rules. I did a few searches but they all applied to domestic.

On an international flight I have never had to pay for 2 checked bags. My last flight was from ORD to HKG to BKK and back. Basic Economy K class. I was also able to request a seat change from the middle to the isle. This flight was back in June. Have the rules changed for United since then? I read on their site after I booked the ticket you can not change your seats or upgrade period! I am a United Member on their lowest tier. I just bought the same ticket again two weeks ago. Luckily I checked and all segments of the flight are isle seats so no worries there. I would like to try to pay using miles, cash, or a combination for an upgrade at the gate if possible, just don't know if I can anymore. Anyone recently have any experience with this recently. Thanks again for any feedback.
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Old Oct 8, 17, 8:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Alster2015 View Post
A few questions about this because I think domestic flights and international basic economy have different rules. I did a few searches but they all applied to domestic.

On an international flight I have never had to pay for 2 checked bags. My last flight was from ORD to HKG to BKK and back. Basic Economy K class. I was also able to request a seat change from the middle to the isle. This flight was back in June. Have the rules changed for United since then? I read on their site after I booked the ticket you can not change your seats or upgrade period! I am a United Member on their lowest tier. I just bought the same ticket again two weeks ago. Luckily I checked and all segments of the flight are isle seats so no worries there. I would like to try to pay using miles, cash, or a combination for an upgrade at the gate if possible, just don't know if I can anymore. Anyone recently have any experience with this recently. Thanks again for any feedback.
I’m curious where you got the notion that your K ticket was Basic Economy. It wasn’t. UA only offers BE on domestic routes for now.

So that’s why you got all those fantastic perks like seat assignments.
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Old Oct 8, 17, 9:02 pm
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Also the domestic Basic Economy flights UA does offer book into N class, lower than K class.
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Old Oct 8, 17, 9:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Alster2015 View Post
Basic Economy K class.
I can understand the confusion. Before UA introduced "Basic Economy" as a separate class of ticket, for a passenger without UA status, this would have been basic Economy, commonly known around here as "E-".
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Old Oct 8, 17, 9:17 pm
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K class is economy, not basic economy.
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Old Oct 8, 17, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
I can understand the confusion. Before UA introduced "Basic Economy" as a separate class of ticket, for a passenger without UA status, this would have been basic Economy, commonly known around here as "E-".
This points out a subtle but potentially serious downside to introducing BE: a segment of the potential flying public will mistakenly think the new rules apply to all of your airline’s economy tickets.
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Old Oct 8, 17, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by RandomBaritone View Post
This points out a subtle but potentially serious downside to introducing BE: a segment of the potential flying public will mistakenly think the new rules apply to all of your airline’s economy tickets.
Yep. And may result in an unmeasurable "book away" factor to airlines (AS, B6, WN) that don't offer BE.

If I didn't have status, it wouldn't make much sense to book UA in Y much of the time. I already recommend my friends fly HA to Hawaii and B6 to New York.
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Old Oct 9, 17, 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
Yep. And may result in an unmeasurable "book away" factor to airlines (AS, B6, WN) that don't offer BE.
AS, B6, or WN to BKK? Seriously?

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Old Oct 9, 17, 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by mduell View Post
AS, B6, or WN to BKK?
No, I'd recommend an Asian carrier, likely SQ, to BKK.

And btw, the point was already made that BE is domestic only.

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Old Oct 9, 17, 7:12 am
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Isn't the 2nd checked bag on an International flight in economy $100? (Unless you pay with your United credit card or are Gold or above?)
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Old Oct 9, 17, 8:27 am
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Isn't the 2nd checked bag on an International flight in economy $100? (Unless you pay with your United credit card or are Gold or above?)
It depends upon the destination. United baggage fees are extremely complex. USA to Thailand appears to get two 50-pound bags in Economy.
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Old Oct 9, 17, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by RandomBaritone View Post
This points out a subtle but potentially serious downside to introducing BE: a segment of the potential flying public will mistakenly think the new rules apply to all of your airline’s economy tickets.
Yep. Friend was booked on an Economy fare for work and texted me in a panic the night before the flight thinking that she wouldn't be able to have a carry on bag after reading about Basic Economy online.
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Old Oct 9, 17, 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by WheelsUpGal View Post
Isn't the 2nd checked bag on an International flight in economy $100? (Unless you pay with your United credit card or are Gold or above?)
Asia gets 2 bags free (except China and disputed territories that China claims because they are not part of the JV with ANA). ANA was forced to revert to 2 bags free a couple years ago because JAL offered 2 bags free so UA went back to 2 bags free on routes that are part of the ANA JV in order to be metal neutral.
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Old Oct 9, 17, 1:32 pm
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How many people are knowledgeable enough to know the detail about fare classes but then don't know much about the generality of the basic economy fare? It has to be minutely small.

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Old Oct 9, 17, 2:32 pm
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Thanks for international baggage charge explanation. Silly me! I thought "international" meant "out of the country" but now I know it means different things to different countries. Wow, didn't know it was so complicated!
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