How are there so many 1K? PQD Impossible!
Sep 27, 2017, 2:11 pm
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Sep 27, 2017, 3:09 pm
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For vacation, very easy to get under $4k and often $3k with flexibility and timing. Work travel, it's much harder.
Sep 27, 2017, 3:16 pm
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Hello,
I just booked a $1400 ticket round trip Prem Economy class to Bangkok on Eva.
I just realized I will earn ZERO PQD!! My fault entirely.American and Delta offer fairly extensive PQD earnings for Premium Economy Class fares so I had no idea these flights literally will not count for status. Seems pretty ridiculous and takes all the fun out of it since United.com doesn't price even close to the competitor website and I did not see a Premium Economy. So this begs the questions, with on United tickets earning PQD, how do so many people achieve 1K!?
I just booked a $1400 ticket round trip Prem Economy class to Bangkok on Eva.
I just realized I will earn ZERO PQD!! My fault entirely.American and Delta offer fairly extensive PQD earnings for Premium Economy Class fares so I had no idea these flights literally will not count for status. Seems pretty ridiculous and takes all the fun out of it since United.com doesn't price even close to the competitor website and I did not see a Premium Economy. So this begs the questions, with on United tickets earning PQD, how do so many people achieve 1K!?
9 trips a year EWR-SFO/SNA/LAS in mix of business and economy
1k PQD is nothing...GS I seem to always miss
Sep 27, 2017, 3:26 pm
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I think it would be pretty hard to be 1K from the US if you did not do 3 or more international business class trips (even heavily discounted, which is the only way I will do it) or lots of paid domestic first. I suspect that for most 1Ks it is the former, and it is business travel. And I also suspect that is the group UA is trying to target.
No International.
No paid F, even domestic.
Just back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, criss-crossing these fine United States.
It's a drain on me; a drain on the family; a drain on my customers and exhausting.
But it's what I've got to do to make a living, so I keep doing it ....
Sep 27, 2017, 5:53 pm
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Absolutely incorrect.
Im almost 100% sure there is an inter line agreement. The issue is discount economy fares on BR - at least most, if not all, are restricted to BR stock. So if you want a full fare BR ticket, it shouldn’t be an issue. If you want a discounted fare, then forget about it.
Im almost 100% sure there is an inter line agreement. The issue is discount economy fares on BR - at least most, if not all, are restricted to BR stock. So if you want a full fare BR ticket, it shouldn’t be an issue. If you want a discounted fare, then forget about it.
It's quite an annoying change--I've had a few situations where customers have started out with a ticket that had UA segments but had to change to all-LH tickets. I couldn't process the exchange myself because of the new restrictions, so I had to call United to do it (where they happily obliged).
The following is the interline ticketing table for United on Sabre. To ticket flights on that airline without a UA segment on the ticket, it must be designated by ‡, P, or S (which none of them are):
Code:
PERMITTED ET INTERLINE CARRIERS
* DENOTES BETA
‡ DENOTES UA IS NOT REQUIRED IN HOSTED INTERLINE ITINERARY
P DENOTES UA IS NOT REQUIRED IN PSEUDO INTERLINE ITINERARY
S DENOTES UA IS NOT REQUIRED IN SUPER PSEUDO INTERLINEITIN
Y DENOTES SSR TKNE MESSAGE SENT
N DENOTES SSR TKNE MESSAGE NOT SENT
R DENOTES INTERLINE REVALIDATION SUPPORTED
E DENOTES INTERLINE EMD SUPPORTED
AA-Y AB-Y AC-Y AD-Y AF-Y AH-Y
AI-Y AM-Y AR-Y AS-Y AV-Y AX-Y
AY-Y AZ-Y A3-Y BA-Y BB-Y BD-Y
BE-Y BI-Y BM-Y BR-Y BT-Y BW-Y
CA-Y CI-Y CM-Y CO-Y CX-Y CZ-Y
DL-Y EI-Y EN-Y EQ-Y ET-Y EW-Y
EY-Y FB-Y FI-Y FJ-Y FM-Y FV-Y
GA-Y GF-Y GK-Y G3-Y HA-Y HO-Y
HU-Y HX-Y IB-Y IT-Y JJ-Y JL-Y
JP-Y JQ-Y J2-Y KA-Y KC-Y KE-Y
KF-Y KL-Y KM-Y KQ-Y KS-Y KU-Y
KX-Y LA-Y LG-Y LH-Y LO-Y LP-Y
LR-Y LW-Y LX-Y LY-Y MD-Y ME-Y
MF-Y MH-Y MI-Y MK-Y MS-Y MU-Y
NH-Y NU-Y NX-Y NZ-Y OA-Y OK-Y
OM-Y OS-Y OU-Y OZ-Y O6-Y PG-Y
PK-Y PR-Y PS-Y PU-Y PX-Y PZ-Y
QF-Y RO-Y SA-Y SK-Y SN-Y SQ-Y
SU-Y S2-Y S4-Y S7-Y TA-Y TG-Y
TJ-Y TK-Y TP-Y UL-Y UN-Y UP-Y
US-Y UX-Y VA-Y VF-Y VK-Y VN-Y
VS-Y VW-Y WK-Y WM-Y WP-Y WS-Y
WY-Y XF-Y XL-Y ZH-Y ZK-Y 3K-Y
3M-Y 4B-Y 4M-Y 4Q-Y 4U-Y 7C-Y
7H-Y 9B-Y 9K-Y 9W-Y
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Sep 27, 2017, 6:23 pm
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Sep 27, 2017, 7:38 pm
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I think it would be pretty hard to be 1K from the US if you did not do 3 or more international business class trips (even heavily discounted, which is the only way I will do it) or lots of paid domestic first. I suspect that for most 1Ks it is the former, and it is business travel. And I also suspect that is the group UA is trying to target.
Sep 27, 2017, 7:45 pm
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For me, it all depends on the travel pattern. I have been pretty lucky to be assigned to domestic projects where the fares are high so I easily make the PQD. Things quickly add up when you travel every week - even at $500 PQD per trip.
Others I work with would end up flying diagonally across the country every week and have a problem with PQD because of low fares between SEA and FLL.
Others I work with would end up flying diagonally across the country every week and have a problem with PQD because of low fares between SEA and FLL.
Sep 27, 2017, 7:57 pm
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PQMs take a hit, but surely making more RDMs under this new system then before.
That $600 is yielding 6,600 RDMs for a 1K.
Sep 27, 2017, 8:20 pm
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I was about to say that at least the CC PQD waiver wasn't hiked to $250k like DL, but then I realized UA's CC PQD waiver for 1Ks is infinite. 
I think the big issue is for folks who fly a lot of partner airlines that don't get plated on 016 stock, or who fly a lot of longhaul domestic discount Y. I fly a ton of paid domestic F, some paid international C, and the rest W or higher international Y + GPU to upgrade. My CPM is under 12 cents, albeit not much, so I will hit $12k PQD around the same time I hit 100k PQM.
I think the big issue is for folks who fly a lot of partner airlines that don't get plated on 016 stock, or who fly a lot of longhaul domestic discount Y. I fly a ton of paid domestic F, some paid international C, and the rest W or higher international Y + GPU to upgrade. My CPM is under 12 cents, albeit not much, so I will hit $12k PQD around the same time I hit 100k PQM.
Sep 27, 2017, 8:51 pm
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).I don't have trouble with PQM due to at least four or five long-haul international per year (and suspect you're in same boat).
Sep 28, 2017, 12:38 am
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I think it would be pretty hard to be 1K from the US if you did not do 3 or more international business class trips (even heavily discounted, which is the only way I will do it) or lots of paid domestic first. I suspect that for most 1Ks it is the former, and it is business travel. And I also suspect that is the group UA is trying to target.
Sep 28, 2017, 3:35 am
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I love getting 2500 RDM for a sub-500 mile flight. OTOH, it was a big shock the first time I netted 10K RDM for an upgraded RT W fare to HKG (which used to net 30K with 1K bonus ).
I don't have trouble with PQM due to at least four or five long-haul international per year (and suspect you're in same boat).
).I don't have trouble with PQM due to at least four or five long-haul international per year (and suspect you're in same boat).
I didn't track it specifically, but my RDMs feel about the same between the old and new system.
Sep 28, 2017, 7:45 am
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Didn’t say qualifying for 1K in domestic economy is impossible, just hard. 70 segments is a lot (and still only 50K PQM). I have qualified with about 35-40 segments per year, 125k PQMs, and making PQDs has been no problem with a little paid international business.