Hardcore approach to turning off wireless devices
Sep 9, 2017, 5:18 pm
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Why make stupid announcements after that?
Sep 12, 2017, 9:15 am
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In a word, no. For a device to function as a hotspot it must have both a valid cellular Internet connection and wifi to broadcast it. While there could in theory be a brief interval after the cellular connection is turned off that the wifi signal might still be visible, turning on airplane mode shuts off ALL antennas on a device. The user can then turn wifi and Bluetooth back on when appropriate.
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Sep 12, 2017, 9:22 am
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Of course none of us was there in this case.
Sep 12, 2017, 11:26 am
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On the SFO->BOS late flight yesterday, after the announcement to turn off cellular devices, one male FA announced specific devices that needed to be turned off: "Fred's Samsung....." A few minutes later, he listed them again by name and then said, "If they are not turned off, they will be reported to the FAA."
Never heard this before. I assume, he was just looking at the list of devices that appear when you search for hotspots. I have mixed feelings. Having rules that you don't enforce tends to breed dis-regard for all rules. This did seem a bit harsh though......
Never heard this before. I assume, he was just looking at the list of devices that appear when you search for hotspots. I have mixed feelings. Having rules that you don't enforce tends to breed dis-regard for all rules. This did seem a bit harsh though......
Sep 13, 2017, 6:00 pm
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A simple "Please turn your phones on to airplane mode" or even jokingly but kind of seriously making up a name and device like "Fred please turn off your Samsung Galaxy S8" is fine. Adding in "Report you to the FAA" or "Add your name to the no-fly list" are unprofessional and unnecessary. I would report any FA who says that.
Sep 13, 2017, 6:05 pm
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Sep 13, 2017, 9:41 pm
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on many flights that I'm on that think the rules don't apply to them - cell phone in airplane mode and otherwise.
Sep 13, 2017, 9:52 pm
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I think the electronic device thing is getting out of hand. A lot of people actually text all the way to takeoff (and more) and many people's devices start to ding/ring on final approach. Worse yet, some actually talk on the phone. Or, they text back and forth without putting their phone on silent or vibrate.
I think by now we know it is not a huge risk when it comes to interfering with the plane. However, rules are rules and, if you want to cheat, at least put them on silent/vibrate.
I have no problem with the FAs being somewhat militant enforcing the rules - the problem is really too many FAs don't enforce any rules - people have huge "hand held" devices and leaving devices plugged in during takeoff/landing.
I think by now we know it is not a huge risk when it comes to interfering with the plane. However, rules are rules and, if you want to cheat, at least put them on silent/vibrate.
I have no problem with the FAs being somewhat militant enforcing the rules - the problem is really too many FAs don't enforce any rules - people have huge "hand held" devices and leaving devices plugged in during takeoff/landing.
Sep 13, 2017, 10:35 pm
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Sep 14, 2017, 3:33 am
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This is all so stupid. Your electronic devices will not harm the aircraft in any way. There would be planes falling out off the sky left and right if they did. Do any of you really think the aircraft manufacturers and the regulatory agencies trust passengers to turn off their devices? Of course not. Therefore any sensitive equipment is sheielded from any interference. It's just a leftover rule from the early days that the old wind-bags at airlines like AA and UA still gripe about.
Sep 14, 2017, 9:34 pm
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This is all so stupid. Your electronic devices will not harm the aircraft in any way. There would be planes falling out off the sky left and right if they did. Do any of you really think the aircraft manufacturers and the regulatory agencies trust passengers to turn off their devices? Of course not. Therefore any sensitive equipment is sheielded from any interference. It's just a leftover rule from the early days that the old wind-bags at airlines like AA and UA still gripe about.
Example: Malaysian FAA have a general ruling (maybe outdated) that phones and devices must be turned off during taxing, take off and landing. The airliners follow this to the letter of the law.
In China, all mobile phones, tablets and lap tops must be turned off for the entire duration of a flight from the time you board till you land (please correct me if the rules have changed)>
Sep 15, 2017, 2:32 am
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Whether it is stupid or not, or whether we agree with it or not, why can't people just do as they are told? A tremendous sense of entitlement abounds in this day and age.