PQD requirement for foreign members, will it ever happen?
Mar 3, 2019, 12:58 pm
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UA has the stats on how many foreign flyers they have in mileage plus, and clearly someone decided if United put a $ value for PQD they would lose customers.
So they have a 0$ PDQ, seems pretty simple to me.
So they have a 0$ PDQ, seems pretty simple to me.
Mar 3, 2019, 1:00 pm
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Mar 3, 2019, 1:05 pm
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Apples to apples, us Yankees have to spend 15K USD for similar published top level at AA, DL, and UA. 10K CAD < 15K USD.
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Mar 3, 2019, 5:45 pm
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And I suspect UA is confident they have systems in place to prevent members from claiming to be non-resident (i.e. providing proof of residence when you move out of the US). No doubt that combined with the member's travel patterns and passport information is more than enough for them to establish whether a member is truly a non-resident or merely one on paper
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Mar 4, 2019, 12:00 am
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I should also point out that there have been reports on FT of UA wanting to verify that you do in fact live in that address (i.e. with a utility bill). Sometimes this happens when you change your primary address to a "non-US" address on the UA website, other times UA will contact you a few days/weeks after the change.
Aug 14, 2019, 3:38 pm
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And I suspect UA is confident they have systems in place to prevent members from claiming to be non-resident (i.e. providing proof of residence when you move out of the US). No doubt that combined with the member's travel patterns and passport information is more than enough for them to establish whether a member is truly a non-resident or merely one on paper
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Aug 14, 2019, 3:47 pm
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Any data points about UA figuring that out? I mean, what if someone is going back and forth between US and Mexico? How will UA determine if one is truly a non-resident even if they spend slightly more than half the year in the US, but provides documentation proving they have an address in Mexico or any other country for that matter?
Aug 14, 2019, 3:54 pm
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For discuss of the address requirements, see -- New change address verification for MP (just non-domestic changes), they are non-trivial for most. Some with long term relationships with a non-USA location could / can take advantage. UA is probably counting on the "leakage" to be small.
Aug 14, 2019, 6:01 pm
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Aug 15, 2019, 5:38 am
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Non-trivial? Really? I quickly went through the thread and driver's license is listed as one of the qualifying document. I guess as long as I maintain such documents even if I'm spending a significant amount of time in the US, I doubt UA will catch me or any other individuals.
I mean, I guess if you're doing all domestic flying, you could be flying other airlines in/out of the USA, but I think it would look extremely suspicious if most of your international travel originates from the USA and you "live abroad"
Aug 15, 2019, 11:24 am
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I believe most people who are genuinely non-US based, and hold status due to being a frequent flyer will have travel which originates and terminates outside of the USA.
I mean, I guess if you're doing all domestic flying, you could be flying other airlines in/out of the USA, but I think it would look extremely suspicious if most of your international travel originates from the USA and you "live abroad"
I mean, I guess if you're doing all domestic flying, you could be flying other airlines in/out of the USA, but I think it would look extremely suspicious if most of your international travel originates from the USA and you "live abroad"
Aug 15, 2019, 2:38 pm
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I believe most people who are genuinely non-US based, and hold status due to being a frequent flyer will have travel which originates and terminates outside of the USA.
I mean, I guess if you're doing all domestic flying, you could be flying other airlines in/out of the USA, but I think it would look extremely suspicious if most of your international travel originates from the USA and you "live abroad"
I mean, I guess if you're doing all domestic flying, you could be flying other airlines in/out of the USA, but I think it would look extremely suspicious if most of your international travel originates from the USA and you "live abroad"
Yeah I have only ever been non US based and 90% of my UA travel (150,000PQM this year) is simply connecting through the USA to somewhere else.
I keep getting asked when I call 1K desk to signup for this darn UA credit card and I have to keep telling them I'm not eligible, which I guess is still why we are exempt
Aug 19, 2019, 3:43 am
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There are a lot to do with the airline's own network and customer base. Airlines like AA or AC do not have a strong foreign base. Because of that, these airlines have no incentive to adopt an exemption policy.
Aug 21, 2019, 4:02 pm
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This describes my situation exactly. Obviously I have strong connections with the USA, as, I should imagine, will all UA elites taking advantage of this, but pretty well all my UA (and other *A flights which they will see on my MP Activity) originate outside the USA apart from the occasional domestic hop.