Exit Row With Underage Child in Reservation
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Exit Row With Underage Child in Reservation
Can we choose exit row seats for those 15 and over and non-exit row for under 15 if on the same reservation? American wouldn't let me sit with my son (15yo) in the exit row and my wife and daughter (12yo) sit elsewhere since we were on the same reservation.
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Secondly; The OP can split the res if he's concerned and the 14 & under can sit elsewhere.
Thirdly; There is NO policy that a pax MUST sit with their 14 & under kid.
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United bars pax in the exit row who have "limitations that would prohibit their assistance". Under that standard I didn't belong in an exit row.
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Wishing to sit together as a family is ONE reason to NOT buy restricted BE's and come strolling on-board in group 5 wanting everyone on the plane to move for the lil'un's! Many of the folks in F/C have their kids sitting in the back, and they don't seem to be too concerned about possible emergencies, as they do it on a regular basis.
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In retrospect, I think its a good policy: if there had been a crash, I would have been fully focused on my child, not on opening the window and enabling others to get out.
United bars pax in the exit row who have "limitations that would prohibit their assistance". Under that standard I didn't belong in an exit row.
United bars pax in the exit row who have "limitations that would prohibit their assistance". Under that standard I didn't belong in an exit row.
OP should just place everyone and himself in E+.
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I was pulled from an ER on a TATL because my kids were in the row in front of the ER. UA has the view that you are more likely to be looking after your kids as opposed to executing ER duties. I guess it makes sense although at the time it appeared as if someone was trying to make a power grab for the ER (separate story BTW).
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Yes, is the answer based on my previous experiences, although those were more than four years ago.
My son is now 19, but after he was around 12 or so (and had been flying to Australia by himself since he was 8) we would be on the same reservation and I would seat him immediately behind me if I were in the exit row. As noted, there is no requirement for a child to sit with their parent but up until 12 he did sit with me. Certainly after 12 they are perfectly capable of behaving themselves (if not earlier) and you can select seats that are not next to each other. These days as he is much taller than me, if there is only one seat available in the exit row I will assign him the seat and I will sit in the row before or after.
If there were a rule requiring everyone to sit together we would not have the issues of families being split up with young children, and certainly BE would not be sold to families. Right?
My son is now 19, but after he was around 12 or so (and had been flying to Australia by himself since he was 8) we would be on the same reservation and I would seat him immediately behind me if I were in the exit row. As noted, there is no requirement for a child to sit with their parent but up until 12 he did sit with me. Certainly after 12 they are perfectly capable of behaving themselves (if not earlier) and you can select seats that are not next to each other. These days as he is much taller than me, if there is only one seat available in the exit row I will assign him the seat and I will sit in the row before or after.
If there were a rule requiring everyone to sit together we would not have the issues of families being split up with young children, and certainly BE would not be sold to families. Right?
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This has nothing to do with how well behaved a child is. It does have something to do with the duties of the person sitting in the exit row.
Below is from the AA web site on a current reservation that I have with a 5 year old,
"Exit seat restrictions
You cannot sit in the exit row if you’re traveling with someone younger than 15"
Below is from the AA web site on a current reservation that I have with a 5 year old,
"Exit seat restrictions
You cannot sit in the exit row if you’re traveling with someone younger than 15"
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At one time, the safety briefing card specifically mentioned traveling with those younger than 15 even if they were not in the exit row. The logic being you would be more interested in helping the child than in assisting with the exit process. While one can debated they would not, it is clear others would make that choice. However I have not review a recent safety card to see if that is still there for UA -- as mentioned earlier it is there for some USA airlines.
prior discussion http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-children.html
prior discussion http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-children.html
I don't know how old your kids are and whether they count as "small children", but here's a google result from FAR Part 121 Sec. 121.585
Maybe you've been lucky before, but it makes perfect sense to not allow an adult whose first priority is going to be their kids and possibly interfere with others trying to evacuate to not to sit in an exit row.
(b) No certificate holder may seat a person in a seat affected by this section if the certificate holder determines that it is likely that the person would be unable to perform one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section because--
[...]
(7) The person has:
(i) A condition or responsibilities, such as caring for small children, that might prevent the person from performing one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section; or
[...]
(7) The person has:
(i) A condition or responsibilities, such as caring for small children, that might prevent the person from performing one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section; or
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Aug 13, 2017 at 5:23 pm
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I agree on the prohibition of kids in the exit row.
A couple months ago my wife and I were on a UA flight out of DEN. We were middle and window in the exit row.
The gentleman in the aisle seat was recovering from a recent knee replacement and had minimal mobility. We would have been fine in an evacuation, but the folks behind him would not. In a perfect world, they would verify that pax in the exit row are physically capable of lifting and removing the door.
I realize that won't happen any time soon.
A couple months ago my wife and I were on a UA flight out of DEN. We were middle and window in the exit row.
The gentleman in the aisle seat was recovering from a recent knee replacement and had minimal mobility. We would have been fine in an evacuation, but the folks behind him would not. In a perfect world, they would verify that pax in the exit row are physically capable of lifting and removing the door.
I realize that won't happen any time soon.
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It's interesting that UA actually allows reservations with kids to select exit rows at all. I just checked, and they are available for me to select for a trip I have booked with my two and a half year old. IME, exit rows are blocked from selection on reservations when there is a lap infant on the reservation - I've noticed this every time.
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From the FAR exclusion section:
(7) The person has:
(i) A condition or responsibilities, such as caring for small children, that might prevent the person from performing one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section; or
(i) A condition or responsibilities, such as caring for small children, that might prevent the person from performing one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section; or
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I think it's a serious hazard expecting a 15 year old to make adult decisions in the event of a crash or emergency and having them sit in the emergency row seats.
We won't allow it in Asia. 18 or over only. No kids.
We won't allow it in Asia. 18 or over only. No kids.