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UA notice -- Additional security measures for international flights to the U.S.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) now requires additional security measures for all international flights to the U.S. These measures include enhanced screening of travelers, as well as heightened screening of electronic devices larger than a standard smartphone. Travelers should be prepared to remove these devices from their protective cases or outer packaging for inspection. If you have a case that requires a screwdriver or other special tools to remove, we recommend doing so before arriving at the airport.

For international flights, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) recommends arriving at the airport at least three hours before your flight if possible, allowing time for the additional security measures. Please note the airport check-in hours first.

For more information, please visit the DHS website.
TSA raising aviation security baseline with stronger domestic security measures

New U.S. airport screening procedures for carry-on bags to better focus on threats
National Press Release
Wednesday, July 26, 2017

WASHINGTON – To ensure the security of airline passengers and the nation’s airports, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is implementing new, stronger screening procedures for carry-on items that require travelers to place all electronics larger than a cell phone in bins for X-ray screening in standard lanes. Following extensive testing and successful pilots at 10 airports, TSA plans to expand these measures to all U.S. airports during the weeks and months ahead.

Due to an increased threat to aviation security, DHS Secretary John Kelly announced in late June new security requirements for nearly 280 airports in more than 100 countries. In an effort to raise the baseline for aviation security worldwide, TSA continues to work closely with airports and airlines to enhance security measures and stay ahead of the evolving threat.

“Whether you’re flying to, from, or within the United States, TSA is committed to raising the baseline for aviation security by strengthening the overall security of our commercial aviation network to keep flying as a safe option for everyone,” said TSA Acting Administrator Huban A. Gowadia.

As new procedures are phased in, TSA officers will begin to ask travelers to remove electronics larger than a cell phone from their carry-on bags and place them in a bin with nothing on top or below, similar to how laptops have been screened for years. This simple step helps TSA officers obtain a clearer X-ray image.

It is possible that passengers may experience more bag checks, however, through extensive testing, TSA identified ways to improve screening procedures with quicker and more targeted measures to clear the bags. The new screening procedures in standard lanes are already in place at the following 10 U.S. airports with plans to expand to all airports during the weeks and months ahead:

Boise Airport (BOI)
Colorado Springs Airport (COS)
Detroit Metropolitan Airport (DTW)
Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport (FLL)
Logan International Airport (BOS)
Los Angeles International Airport (LAX)
Lubbock Preston Smith International Airport (LBB)
Luis Muñoz Marín International Airport (SJU)
McCarran International Airport (LAS)
Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport (PHX)

In standard screening lanes, TSA officers will be stationed in front of the checkpoint X-ray machines to guide passengers through the screening process and recommend how best to arrange their carry-on items for X-ray screening. Travelers are encouraged to organize their carry-on bags and keep them uncluttered to ease the screening process and keep the lines moving. There are no changes to what travelers can bring through the checkpoint; food and liquid items that comply with the 3-1-1 liquids rule, electronics, and books continue to be allowed in carry-on bags.

“It is critical for TSA to constantly enhance and adjust security screening procedures to stay ahead of evolving threats and keep passengers safe. By separating personal electronic items such as laptops, tablets, e-readers and handheld game consoles for screening, TSA officers can more closely focus on resolving alarms and stopping terror threats,” said Gowadia.

The stronger security measures do not apply to passengers enrolled in TSA Pre✓® who are using TSA Pre✓® lanes. TSA also marked another milestone earlier this month with TSA Pre✓® now available at 200 airports nationwide. Travelers enrolled in TSA Pre✓® do not need to remove shoes, 3-1-1 liquids, laptops, electronics, light outerwear, or belts. The program allows TSA to focus resources on passengers who may pose a high risk to security while providing expedited screening to those travelers who have been identified as low-risk, trusted travelers.
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Old Jul 18, 17, 10:21 am
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New security measures for international & domestic flights - Impact on my UA flights?

Flying FRA>IAD on Friday, and I just received an email from United:

Subject: Additional security measures for international flights to the U.S

Important update on your upcoming flight



Additional security measures for international flights to the U.S.



Beginning this week, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) will require additional security measures for all international flights to the U.S. These measures include enhanced screening of travelers, as well as heightened screening of electronic devices larger than a standard smartphone. Travelers may need to remove these devices from their protective cases or outer packaging for inspection.

For international flights, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) recommends arriving at the airport at least three hours before your flight, allowing time for the additional security measures.

For more information, please visit the DHS website (www.dhs.gov).
Has anyone else gotten this email? Any idea how much more time I should build in? I'm coming from a meeting in Cologne, and I'm a bit worried, as I'm already a bit tight on time.
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Old Jul 18, 17, 10:44 am
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I wonder if this will mean increasing the MCT when connecting to US bound flights. I have a 1:45 connection in FRA in a few weeks, connecting to a UA flight heading to IAH.
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Old Jul 18, 17, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by swiftaw View Post
I wonder if this will mean increasing the MCT when connecting to US bound flights. I have a 1:45 connection in FRA in a few weeks, connecting to a UA flight heading to IAH.
Even with this, 1:45 in FRA is more than enough.

I've read that this security is just having your electronics swabbed.
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Old Jul 18, 17, 11:30 am
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Even with this, 1:45 in FRA is more than enough.

I've read that this security is just having your electronics swabbed.

Two recent experiences here:

1. Leaving HKG the other day, everyone was being stopped/searched on the jetway. They confiscated my bottle of water that I had purchased moments earlier in the shop nearby. Who knows? Maybe it ended back in the same refrigerator for the next person to buy.

2. Coming from NRT recently, all my electronics were swabbed. I thought it was no big deal until my Bose headphones somehow set off the machine. I got a lot of personal attention that day and it added about 25 minutes to my wait time.
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Old Jul 18, 17, 11:52 am
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That water check is normal, that's been going on for a long time.

Ive never seen electronics get swabbed. The only time I've been swabbed at the gate was out of DXB. I'm sure all these measures make things appear safer.
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Old Jul 18, 17, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by K2BF View Post
Two recent experiences here:

1. Leaving HKG the other day, everyone was being stopped/searched on the jetway. They confiscated my bottle of water that I had purchased moments earlier in the shop nearby. Who knows? Maybe it ended back in the same refrigerator for the next person to buy.

2. Coming from NRT recently, all my electronics were swabbed. I thought it was no big deal until my Bose headphones somehow set off the machine. I got a lot of personal attention that day and it added about 25 minutes to my wait time.
The HKG process isn't new - it's been there for years and is very irritating. Applies to all airlines flying to the US.

The NRT process seems new though.
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Old Jul 18, 17, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by K2BF View Post
Two recent experiences here:

1. Leaving HKG the other day, everyone was being stopped/searched on the jetway. They confiscated my bottle of water that I had purchased moments earlier in the shop nearby. Who knows? Maybe it ended back in the same refrigerator for the next person to buy.

2. Coming from NRT recently, all my electronics were swabbed. I thought it was no big deal until my Bose headphones somehow set off the machine. I got a lot of personal attention that day and it added about 25 minutes to my wait time.
How recent?

I flew KIX-SFO late last week and there were no additional searches and checks after regular security and immigration.

Originally Posted by DetroitFlyer View Post
The HKG process isn't new - it's been there for years and is very irritating. Applies to all airlines flying to the US.
Are those checks from HKG only?
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Old Jul 18, 17, 12:43 pm
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How recent?

I flew KIX-SFO late last week and there were no additional searches and checks after regular security and immigration.



Are those checks from HKG only?
In my experience, flights from EZE, PTY, SJO, HKG to the US have additional security check at the gate/jetway.
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We flew LHR-ORD on Saturday and it seemed like a much greater number of people than in the past had the dreaded SSS on their boarding passes. They were shunted off to a separate area (with walls) for special security. This may be related to the issue with a LHR-SFO flight being cancelled and we had a bunch of people pushed over to our flight - those new BPs may have been flagged as "last minute" tickets?

Security as we saw it was:

the usual questions at baggage checkin.

normal security upfront although it seems like a lot of people were beeping (including me) Fast Track was maybe a 5 minute wait - mostly caused my people who had apparently never flown before and were mystified by the process - so the wait was very much on the low end.

then the 2nd security at the gate where many people were pulled aside.
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Old Jul 18, 17, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by K2BF View Post
Two recent experiences here:

1. Leaving HKG the other day, everyone was being stopped/searched on the jetway. They confiscated my bottle of water that I had purchased moments earlier in the shop nearby. Who knows? Maybe it ended back in the same refrigerator for the next person to buy.
I asked why the last time I went through and was told that the terminal has incoming flights from other airports and connecting passengers haven't cleared security here, so it is done to satisfy US security requirements.

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Old Jul 18, 17, 1:01 pm
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I asked why the last time I went through and was told that the terminal has incoming flights from other airports and connecting passengers haven't cleared security here, so it is done to satisfy US security requirements.
Are there countries whose flights that HKG doesn't require going thru transit security?
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Old Jul 18, 17, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by K2BF View Post
Two recent experiences here:

1. Leaving HKG the other day, everyone was being stopped/searched on the jetway. They confiscated my bottle of water that I had purchased moments earlier in the shop nearby. Who knows? Maybe it ended back in the same refrigerator for the next person to buy.

2. Coming from NRT recently, all my electronics were swabbed. I thought it was no big deal until my Bose headphones somehow set off the machine. I got a lot of personal attention that day and it added about 25 minutes to my wait time.
1. Happens in PEK and PVG too. Learned not to take a bottle of water from the lounge. It's no problem when flying Polaris Business but when in Economy + it's a pain, although on some flights the flight attendants are quite good and they come every hour with glasses of water.

2. Coming back from PEK last month, my backpack had to go 5 times through the Xray machine. Go once, remove some stuff, go twice, remove more stuff and so on. At the end everything was out of the backpack. But I was not the only person to whom it happened. It was every 3 persons. And yes it added 20 minutes to the process. And every single person was touched after passing through the people's Xray machine.
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Old Jul 18, 17, 1:31 pm
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Originally Posted by StuckinITH View Post
1. Happens in PEK and PVG too. Learned not to take a bottle of water from the lounge. It's no problem when flying Polaris Business but when in Economy + it's a pain, although on some flights the flight attendants are quite good and they come every hour with glasses of water.

2. Coming back from PEK last month, my backpack had to go 5 times through the Xray machine. Go once, remove some stuff, go twice, remove more stuff and so on. At the end everything was out of the backpack. But I was not the only person to whom it happened. It was every 3 persons. And yes it added 20 minutes to the process. And every single person was touched after passing through the people's Xray machine.
PEK security has always been like that, afaik.
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The new procedures take effect tomorrow (the 19th). Expect increased lines - Lufthansa, for example, already increased their checkin cutoff by 20 minutes for US-bound flights due to this. In the long run it'll become routine like liquids, but I'd allow for extra time if you're traveling in the next week...
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Originally Posted by CAPT Tee View Post
In my experience, flights from EZE, PTY, SJO, HKG to the US have additional security check at the gate/jetway.
We have also seen the liquid screening on LIM-EWR years ago. They took our Inca Kola …
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