Using UA miles from Cairns(CNS)
#16
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SYD-CNS is not served by any *A or other MP partner airlines. There may be service from Auckland, NZ on ANZ (but that's going to be far out of your way).
#17
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There's extremely little Star Alliance service to CNS.
I would just buy SYD-CNS separately. Could be a good use of Avios on Qantas if prices are high.
I would just buy SYD-CNS separately. Could be a good use of Avios on Qantas if prices are high.
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#19
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Trying to use United miles to book flights from DTW -> SYD -> CNS. We are planning on flying last week of June/first week of July. Flexible with flying dates as long as it's in June/July. So far I'm able to find flights DTW -> SYD but having no luck finding flights that go to CNS. Would be nice if at least one leg of the journey was either starting or ending in CNS. Any ideas on what I can do to fly to CNS?
Some airlines from Asia fly to CNS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairns_Airport
Airlines that fly in Australia domestically. Excludes some small operators. Take careful note of the fare conditions including checked & carry-on baggage. If doing the SYD transfer on same day allow plenty of time for T1 T2/T3 transfer. UA also fly to MEL.
- Airnorth TL Regional airline in northern central Australia
- Alliance Airlines QQ Regional airline. Tailored aircraft charters for the resource industry. Operates some VA regional flights.
- Jetstar JQ (a low cost carrier owned by QF)
- Pelican Airlines FP Newcastle, NSW based regional airline
- Regional Express Airways (REX) ZL Regional airline
- Tiger Airways TT (a low cost carrier owned by Virgin Australia)
- Qantas QF [OneWorld Alliance]
- Virgin Australia VA (Delta & AC* partner) *= some routes
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Jan 1, 2019 at 5:33 pm
#20
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Domestic Australia flights are an excellent use of Avios or AA miles -- 10k in Y or 20k in J, although taxes are really high.
#21
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GUM-CNS & HNL-CNS Long Gone
The first time I flew to Australia was from HNL-CNS in First Class on a Continental DC-10-30 in November 1990. It was like two first class round trip tickets for 170,000 miles from Florida. The IAH-HNL flight was a 747. Great international first class service. Then in 2002 did the GUM-CNS for 80,000 miles each for an off peak business class tickets from Florida, using Northwest from DTW-NGO. From DC-10 to 737 to nothing. CO tried to charge 100,000 because CO was used, but explained to them a 737 is not First or BusinessFirst.
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Just watch the baggage allowance really carefully. The carry on is limited to 7kg total weight. In November 2018 Virgin Australia enforced it religiously at check in from BNE to CNS, and my leather roll on computer bag, with nothing but my laptop exceeded this, even with the cables etc packed in in my check in luggage. I couldn't pay for excess carry on and had to pack my computer bag in a holdall that we normally pack in case we purchase gifts etc on vacation. I then had to pay for that as checked baggage and carry my laptop and anything with lithium batteries with me with no bag. Excess baggage fees are also significantly cheaper if purchased on line as opposed to at the airport, at least with VA. We were in Economy but not on the cheapest fare either. Very different to N America. QANTAS says the same weight limits but they made no effort to check or enforce. Mind you the QANTAS segments were purchased as part of a full itinerary through UA and differing allowances exist when connecting ( although theoretically not for carry on ). However, in BNE there were scales by every gate, VA and QANTAS. VA said it was an Australian transportation authority rule but lots of folks had huge bags in the gate area and nobody checked. As for the two airlines, VA had nicer seats but were baggage Nazis. QANTAS were friendlier but had tiny, cramped seats.
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#25
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QF domestic allows 1or 2 at 7 kg and a small personal item:- 1 at 115 cm or 2 at 105 cm (each 7kg)
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/travel-...age-allowances
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/travel-...age-allowances
#26
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Just watch the baggage allowance really carefully. The carry on is limited to 7kg total weight. In November 2018 Virgin Australia enforced it religiously at check in from BNE to CNS, and my leather roll on computer bag, with nothing but my laptop exceeded this, even with the cables etc packed in in my check in luggage. I couldn't pay for excess carry on and had to pack my computer bag in a holdall that we normally pack in case we purchase gifts etc on vacation. I then had to pay for that as checked baggage and carry my laptop and anything with lithium batteries with me with no bag. Excess baggage fees are also significantly cheaper if purchased on line as opposed to at the airport, at least with VA. We were in Economy but not on the cheapest fare either. Very different to N America. QANTAS says the same weight limits but they made no effort to check or enforce. Mind you the QANTAS segments were purchased as part of a full itinerary through UA and differing allowances exist when connecting ( although theoretically not for carry on ). However, in BNE there were scales by every gate, VA and QANTAS. VA said it was an Australian transportation authority rule but lots of folks had huge bags in the gate area and nobody checked. As for the two airlines, VA had nicer seats but were baggage Nazis. QANTAS were friendlier but had tiny, cramped seats.
#27
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So with UA ff miles, no, as awards need to be on ff partners
If on QF/AA yes, but needs to be all booked as an award to CNS with QF, AA or other QF ff partner ff miles.
If on VA/DL yes, but needs to be all booked as an award to CNS with VA, DL or other VA ff partner ff miles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairns_Airport
Route--> GCMapper
On QF SYD-CNS can be ~Au$300/$400 and more (one way) for the 3hr flight. VA & JQ may be cheaper, but be aware of what is included in the ticket
Air NZ via ORD & AKL is about the same distance as via LAX-SYD, but awards on Air NZ are hard to get.
As a cash ticket AKL-CNS can be about the same as SYD-CNS
Air Canada (Star Alliance) flys into BNE
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Jan 3, 2019 at 6:01 pm
#28
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We're in the same boat as you as far as trying to book an award EWR-CNS. After researching this A LOT, the best we came up with was UA Award EWR-SYD and then QF Paid SYD-CNS.
Make sure you leave a lot of time between the arrival of your UA flight and the departure of your QF flight. Being on separate airlines and separate tickets, QF probably won't show any sympathy if you miss their flight because you're UA flight was late.
For example: We arrive in SYD at 7:00am on Day 1. We won't depart for CNS until 1:00pm on Day 2. Since we have the time, we are going to check out Sydney and recover from our jet-lag there. Also, god forbid we don't get on the once daily flight to SYD, we still can be on the next day's flight and make the flight to CNS. As I said though, we are lucky to have this freedom and I realize many people will not.
Make sure you leave a lot of time between the arrival of your UA flight and the departure of your QF flight. Being on separate airlines and separate tickets, QF probably won't show any sympathy if you miss their flight because you're UA flight was late.
For example: We arrive in SYD at 7:00am on Day 1. We won't depart for CNS until 1:00pm on Day 2. Since we have the time, we are going to check out Sydney and recover from our jet-lag there. Also, god forbid we don't get on the once daily flight to SYD, we still can be on the next day's flight and make the flight to CNS. As I said though, we are lucky to have this freedom and I realize many people will not.
#29
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We're in the same boat as you as far as trying to book an award EWR-CNS. After researching this A LOT, the best we came up with was UA Award EWR-SYD and then QF Paid SYD-CNS.
Make sure you leave a lot of time between the arrival of your UA flight and the departure of your QF flight. Being on separate airlines and separate tickets, QF probably won't show any sympathy if you miss their flight because you're UA flight was late.
For example: We arrive in SYD at 7:00am on Day 1. We won't depart for CNS until 1:00pm on Day 2. Since we have the time, we are going to check out Sydney and recover from our jet-lag there. Also, god forbid we don't get on the once daily flight to SYD, we still can be on the next day's flight and make the flight to CNS. As I said though, we are lucky to have this freedom and I realize many people will not.
Make sure you leave a lot of time between the arrival of your UA flight and the departure of your QF flight. Being on separate airlines and separate tickets, QF probably won't show any sympathy if you miss their flight because you're UA flight was late.
For example: We arrive in SYD at 7:00am on Day 1. We won't depart for CNS until 1:00pm on Day 2. Since we have the time, we are going to check out Sydney and recover from our jet-lag there. Also, god forbid we don't get on the once daily flight to SYD, we still can be on the next day's flight and make the flight to CNS. As I said though, we are lucky to have this freedom and I realize many people will not.