Plane heading back to gate- what now?
Jul 13, 2017, 5:38 pm
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Plane heading back to gate- what now?
My EWR-IAH flight has returned to the gate after a 3 1/2 hour wait on the tarmac as the pilots have timed out. This is a first for me. Fortunately I am in first. How often do they end up replacing the crew versus cancelling the flight altogether?
Jul 13, 2017, 5:41 pm
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Either way, you'll probably be waiting longer than the next scheduled departure to IAH, if it's on-time. I'd get on the blower and get switched to that next flight, if I were you!
Jul 13, 2017, 5:47 pm
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Flight 1810? If so, extremely likely that a crew will be found and departure will be expedited as it's a 767-300. That type of aircraft is often a revenue getter on an overseas route and being flown domestically for positioning. I've personally experienced that same aircraft stuck en route from ORD to IAH, diverted to DFW for weather for 6 hours and another crew flown in just to get it to IAH. Departure ensued after midnight for a 30 minute flight.
Jul 13, 2017, 5:52 pm
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I would rather sit in my lie flat than in the terminal, even for a couple more hours. The seat maps are showing the last two flights as full anyway.
Yes, flight 1810. They have asked everyone to deplane.
Yes, flight 1810. They have asked everyone to deplane.
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Jul 13, 2017, 5:54 pm
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No surprise. The cabin crew cannot leave the plane with passengers on board. And if they don't have new pilots ready to go yet that could take up to a couple hours to make happen.
I'd be on the phone to reservations asking to be protected on a flight in the morning.
I'd be on the phone to reservations asking to be protected on a flight in the morning.
Jul 13, 2017, 6:01 pm
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If you really spent 3.5 hours on the tarmac, then UA is probably going to get fined too, as that exceeds 3 hour tarmac delay rule.
When does the 3 hours clock start? Door shut? Clearance to leave the gate?
Jul 13, 2017, 6:07 pm
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It's a 763 and they need the frame for GRU. I second AirbusFan2B that they will get the plane out tonight with very high probability. While it never hurts to have a backup plan, it's doubtful you can get to IAH faster by doing anything else as EWR is in disaster mode right now.
Official time on the tarmac was 2h37, possible the rule forced them back to the gate, which caused the crew to time out:
Official time on the tarmac was 2h37, possible the rule forced them back to the gate, which caused the crew to time out:
Code:
1810/13JUL
P EWR/OUT 455P L00.40 EST OFF 700PLATE INBOUND CREW
P EWR/RR 732P
F EWR/ETD 900P L04.45 FLIGHT CREW AVAILABILITY
F IAH/ETA 1133P L04.33
D CRC/IAH/ PROB DLYS/DVRT/CNCL DUE TO THUNDERSTORMS
SKED EWR ORIG 415P GTD C123 SHIP 6452
IAH 700P TERM GTA E5
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Jul 13, 2017, 6:12 pm
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The new rule prohibits U.S. airlines operating domestic flights from permitting an aircraft to remain on the tarmac for more than three hours without deplaning passengers, with exceptions allowed only for safety or security or if air traffic control advises the pilot in command that returning to the terminal would disrupt airport operations. U.S. carriers operating international flights departing from or arriving in the United States must specify, in advance, their own time limits for deplaning passengers, with the same exceptions applicable.
Jul 13, 2017, 6:19 pm
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Thanks guys. I am going to wait it out. The text message I just received said 9pm. As long as I get home tonight I am good.
I guess the 2 hours and 47 minutes is based on pushback? I was in my seat before 4pm. So that sounds about right.
I guess the 2 hours and 47 minutes is based on pushback? I was in my seat before 4pm. So that sounds about right.
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Jul 13, 2017, 6:36 pm
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Jul 13, 2017, 6:43 pm
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It's a 763 and they need the frame for GRU. I second AirbusFan2B that they will get the plane out tonight with very high probability. While it never hurts to have a backup plan, it's doubtful you can get to IAH faster by doing anything else as EWR is in disaster mode right now.
Official time on the tarmac was 2h37, possible the rule forced them back to the gate, which caused the crew to time out:
Official time on the tarmac was 2h37, possible the rule forced them back to the gate, which caused the crew to time out:
Code:
1810/13JUL P EWR/OUT 455P L00.40 EST OFF 700PLATE INBOUND CREW P EWR/RR 732P F EWR/ETD 900P L04.45 FLIGHT CREW AVAILABILITY F IAH/ETA 1133P L04.33 D CRC/IAH/ PROB DLYS/DVRT/CNCL DUE TO THUNDERSTORMS SKED EWR ORIG 415P GTD C123 SHIP 6452 IAH 700P TERM GTA E5
Jul 13, 2017, 7:19 pm
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