Jul 13, 2017, 1:24 pm
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Boeing 767-300 Version 2 (30/184) - Polaris non-HD
30 Polaris 46 E+ 138 E-
AeroLOPA view: https://www.aerolopa.com/ua-boeing-76a
AVOID Polaris:
7A, 7L does not have a window.
Recommended E+ seats:
21DEF (middle seats) have extra legroom as an emergency crossover row. Note that 21AB and KL have limited recline.
22AB and KL have extra legroom but may be cold.
40AB, 41AB are crew-rest seats. If available (usually T-24), they have a footrest and extra recline.
Related thread
Everything You Want to Know About Where to Sit on 763 High J (46/22/43/56) Polaris+PP
30 Polaris 46 E+ 138 E-
AeroLOPA view: https://www.aerolopa.com/ua-boeing-76a
AVOID Polaris:
7A, 7L does not have a window.
Recommended E+ seats:
21DEF (middle seats) have extra legroom as an emergency crossover row. Note that 21AB and KL have limited recline.
22AB and KL have extra legroom but may be cold.
40AB, 41AB are crew-rest seats. If available (usually T-24), they have a footrest and extra recline.
Related thread
Everything You Want to Know About Where to Sit on 763 High J (46/22/43/56) Polaris+PP
Everything You Want to Know About Where to Sit on a 767-300 (30/46/138)- Polaris seat
Aug 27, 2017, 11:09 pm
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Wait for UA to announce what routes they dedicate the new 763 to, if any.
Aug 28, 2017, 2:35 am
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You can read way up in the thread but
TL;DR UA will do the 3 class birds (pmUA 763 and 772) first, then the pmCO 772s, then will reassess and decide to reconfigure the remaining 767s and extend the life of them or retire them, I would expect a decision on the future of the 764 and 2 class 763s about 2020, but I would expect retirement as they will need at least 5 years with Polaris seats to extend the life.
TL;DR UA will do the 3 class birds (pmUA 763 and 772) first, then the pmCO 772s, then will reassess and decide to reconfigure the remaining 767s and extend the life of them or retire them, I would expect a decision on the future of the 764 and 2 class 763s about 2020, but I would expect retirement as they will need at least 5 years with Polaris seats to extend the life.
AA's product can argue with that and so can DL's.
Aug 28, 2017, 7:18 am
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You would think so, but many of the 744s they are retiring are under 20 years old, so I wouldn't put stock in the idea that UA will keep them around just because they are less than 20 years old.
Aug 28, 2017, 7:56 am
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I'm optimistic that the Polaris 767 will be a much more desirable J product than the original Thompson Vantage installed on AA/DL 767s. Any perceived issues with the forthcoming Polaris seat (narrow, smaller/tigher footwell, shorter seat, lack of storage, poor traytable design, etc.) are already documented issues with the Vantage seat. The Vantage is probably my least favorite direct aisle access seat.
Meanwhile, DL's seats are getting a bit worn and AA's, while newer, don't have embedded IFE.
On the other hand, the Polaris seats will be much more private, with better IFE screen and some more bells-and-whistles than the AA/DL products.
I think credit must be given where due, and the Polaris 763ER will end up a strong product.
Meanwhile, DL's seats are getting a bit worn and AA's, while newer, don't have embedded IFE.
On the other hand, the Polaris seats will be much more private, with better IFE screen and some more bells-and-whistles than the AA/DL products.
I think credit must be given where due, and the Polaris 763ER will end up a strong product.
Aug 28, 2017, 8:29 am
#125
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I'm optimistic that the Polaris 767 will be a much more desirable J product than the original Thompson Vantage installed on AA/DL 767s. Any perceived issues with the forthcoming Polaris seat (narrow, smaller/tigher footwell, shorter seat, lack of storage, poor traytable design, etc.) are already documented issues with the Vantage seat. The Vantage is probably my least favorite direct aisle access seat.
Meanwhile, DL's seats are getting a bit worn and AA's, while newer, don't have embedded IFE.
On the other hand, the Polaris seats will be much more private, with better IFE screen and some more bells-and-whistles than the AA/DL products.
I think credit must be given where due, and the Polaris 763ER will end up a strong product.
Meanwhile, DL's seats are getting a bit worn and AA's, while newer, don't have embedded IFE.
On the other hand, the Polaris seats will be much more private, with better IFE screen and some more bells-and-whistles than the AA/DL products.
I think credit must be given where due, and the Polaris 763ER will end up a strong product.
The Vantage seat was great when it came out, but the original version is a generation behind newer seats at this point.
Sep 28, 2017, 2:53 am
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Polaris 767 N644UA - Where to sit (couples)?
By sheer luck, our plane has been swapped out for N644UA, the only Polaris 767.
It looks like couples who want some sort of interaction should choose seats A/D in even numbered rows - can anyone make a recommendation?
It looks like couples who want some sort of interaction should choose seats A/D in even numbered rows - can anyone make a recommendation?
Sep 28, 2017, 4:45 am
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I just got off N644UA.
For couples, I would pick 21DE. Note that 21DE is the very last row of E+ in the center section. The row numbers don't align all the away across the aircraft. 22AB and 22KL are the last rows of E+ on the left and right sides.
The reason I pick 21DE is that:
1) You get the best legroom of E+ due to the alignment of the exit rows. There's got to be at least 48" of pitch in this row.
2) Full recline.
3) The tray tables is in the arm rest, EXCEPT for 21DE. 21D's non-movable arm rest is on the left side where as 21E's non-movable arm rest is on the right side. So in between is a movable (normal) armrest.
[EDIT]
On my flight, the monitors were not working in 21DEF. So, they gave us $75 eCerts. 21DEF is also unique in that there's monitors on the back of 20DEF, and there's monitors that pull out from the arm rests (under the tray tables). So, if it was all working, I think you could watch two different things at the same time.
For couples, I would pick 21DE. Note that 21DE is the very last row of E+ in the center section. The row numbers don't align all the away across the aircraft. 22AB and 22KL are the last rows of E+ on the left and right sides.
The reason I pick 21DE is that:
1) You get the best legroom of E+ due to the alignment of the exit rows. There's got to be at least 48" of pitch in this row.
2) Full recline.
3) The tray tables is in the arm rest, EXCEPT for 21DE. 21D's non-movable arm rest is on the left side where as 21E's non-movable arm rest is on the right side. So in between is a movable (normal) armrest.
[EDIT]
On my flight, the monitors were not working in 21DEF. So, they gave us $75 eCerts. 21DEF is also unique in that there's monitors on the back of 20DEF, and there's monitors that pull out from the arm rests (under the tray tables). So, if it was all working, I think you could watch two different things at the same time.
Sep 28, 2017, 5:12 am
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I just got off N644UA.
For couples, I would pick 21DE. Note that 21DE is the very last row of E+ in the center section. The row numbers don't align all the away across the aircraft. 22AB and 22KL are the last rows of E+ on the left and right sides.
The reason I pick 21DE is that:
1) You get the best legroom of E+ due to the alignment of the exit rows. There's got to be at least 48" of pitch in this row.
2) Full recline.
3) The tray tables is in the arm rest, EXCEPT for 21DE. 21D's non-movable arm rest is on the left side where as 21E's non-movable arm rest is on the right side. So in between is a movable (normal) armrest.
[EDIT]
On my flight, the monitors were not working in 21DEF. So, they gave us $75 eCerts. 21DEF is also unique in that there's monitors on the back of 20DEF, and there's monitors that pull out from the arm rests (under the tray tables). So, if it was all working, I think you could watch two different things at the same time.
For couples, I would pick 21DE. Note that 21DE is the very last row of E+ in the center section. The row numbers don't align all the away across the aircraft. 22AB and 22KL are the last rows of E+ on the left and right sides.
The reason I pick 21DE is that:
1) You get the best legroom of E+ due to the alignment of the exit rows. There's got to be at least 48" of pitch in this row.
2) Full recline.
3) The tray tables is in the arm rest, EXCEPT for 21DE. 21D's non-movable arm rest is on the left side where as 21E's non-movable arm rest is on the right side. So in between is a movable (normal) armrest.
[EDIT]
On my flight, the monitors were not working in 21DEF. So, they gave us $75 eCerts. 21DEF is also unique in that there's monitors on the back of 20DEF, and there's monitors that pull out from the arm rests (under the tray tables). So, if it was all working, I think you could watch two different things at the same time.
Sep 28, 2017, 9:06 am
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I just got off N644UA.
For couples, I would pick 21DE. Note that 21DE is the very last row of E+ in the center section. The row numbers don't align all the away across the aircraft. 22AB and 22KL are the last rows of E+ on the left and right sides.
The reason I pick 21DE is that:
1) You get the best legroom of E+ due to the alignment of the exit rows. There's got to be at least 48" of pitch in this row.
2) Full recline.
3) The tray tables is in the arm rest, EXCEPT for 21DE. 21D's non-movable arm rest is on the left side where as 21E's non-movable arm rest is on the right side. So in between is a movable (normal) armrest.
[EDIT]
On my flight, the monitors were not working in 21DEF. So, they gave us $75 eCerts. 21DEF is also unique in that there's monitors on the back of 20DEF, and there's monitors that pull out from the arm rests (under the tray tables). So, if it was all working, I think you could watch two different things at the same time.
For couples, I would pick 21DE. Note that 21DE is the very last row of E+ in the center section. The row numbers don't align all the away across the aircraft. 22AB and 22KL are the last rows of E+ on the left and right sides.
The reason I pick 21DE is that:
1) You get the best legroom of E+ due to the alignment of the exit rows. There's got to be at least 48" of pitch in this row.
2) Full recline.
3) The tray tables is in the arm rest, EXCEPT for 21DE. 21D's non-movable arm rest is on the left side where as 21E's non-movable arm rest is on the right side. So in between is a movable (normal) armrest.
[EDIT]
On my flight, the monitors were not working in 21DEF. So, they gave us $75 eCerts. 21DEF is also unique in that there's monitors on the back of 20DEF, and there's monitors that pull out from the arm rests (under the tray tables). So, if it was all working, I think you could watch two different things at the same time.
Sep 28, 2017, 10:43 am
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Hopefully, you're not thinking of lie-flat type of "full recline". "Full recline" in this context is the normal 4" E+ recline, versus 3" regular E recline or limited/zero recline due to bulkhead or exit row behind. Don't expect a E+ lie-flat.
Sep 28, 2017, 7:44 pm
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An A/D pair is probably optimal, although you're still essentially shouting across the aisle. The ability to talk over the shoulder is also non-trivial from two consecutive seats in the same column. But either way I wouldn't expect to be having a quiet, private conversation the whole flight.
Sep 29, 2017, 12:21 am
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Sep 29, 2017, 1:44 am
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Meanwhile, DL's seats are getting a bit worn and AA's, while newer, don't have embedded IFE.
On the other hand, the Polaris seats will be much more private, with better IFE screen and some more bells-and-whistles than the AA/DL products.
I think credit must be given where due, and the Polaris 763ER will end up a strong product.
On the other hand, the Polaris seats will be much more private, with better IFE screen and some more bells-and-whistles than the AA/DL products.
I think credit must be given where due, and the Polaris 763ER will end up a strong product.
Sep 29, 2017, 9:34 am
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Ye asked for direct aisle access.. ye hath said nothing about couples..
An A/D pair is probably optimal, although you're still essentially shouting across the aisle. The ability to talk over the shoulder is also non-trivial from two consecutive seats in the same column. But either way I wouldn't expect to be having a quiet, private conversation the whole flight.
An A/D pair is probably optimal, although you're still essentially shouting across the aisle. The ability to talk over the shoulder is also non-trivial from two consecutive seats in the same column. But either way I wouldn't expect to be having a quiet, private conversation the whole flight.
Sep 29, 2017, 12:24 pm
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