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Old Jul 5, 2017, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingNone
But seriously, {the} crazy idea that Asians will be targeted and hauled off every flight if they speak up instead of being obedient little robots is ridiculous.
That's the reputation that United has created for itself in the Asian community (especially amongst Chinese WeChat users). You could argue that its fake news, that the data doesn't support it, but that's the perception ... and for the mass public, perception = reality.

(That's why "Teach the controversy" disinformation campaigns works so effectively.)

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Old Jul 5, 2017, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyngSvyr
I am by no means "victim blaming", but it sounds like this mother was not willing to speak up for herself and let the FA/GA know the full extent of what was going on...
Originally Posted by FlyingNone
{the} crazy idea that Asians will be targeted and hauled off every flight if they speak up instead of being obedient little robots is ridiculous. The woman was being too passive...
When United's brand rep is such that any passenger is legitimately afraid to interact with crew to resolve a safety issue -- let alone defend his/her rights -- United has a serious problem.

None of us are in a position to judge this woman. But I know what it means to think twice about initiating contact with a United employee seen lashing out at innocent customers.

United created this perception crisis and it doesn't wash to tell scared passengers to get over it. How about if United does something about it?
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Old Jul 5, 2017, 1:22 pm
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Scott Kirby and Oscar sure know how to ruin, err, I mean "run" an airline.
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Old Jul 5, 2017, 1:43 pm
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I saw her interviewed on local news this morning. Personal opinion, she is milking this to the extreme - she was is being way over the top dramatic.

If she couldn't handle the kid on her lap, she could've gotten off of the plane.
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Old Jul 5, 2017, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by ecofreak
this is clearly an issue beyond poor CS.
Don't the UA or outsourced employees handling complaints have rules that when they receive something mentioning certain serious issues, such as safety violations, that the complaint is sent to some more senior person with better judgment?
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Old Jul 5, 2017, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
If she couldn't handle the kid on her lap, she could've gotten off of the plane.
Wow.
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Old Jul 5, 2017, 2:22 pm
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Old Jul 5, 2017, 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
I saw her interviewed on local news this morning. Personal opinion, she is milking this to the extreme - she was is being way over the top dramatic.

If she couldn't handle the kid on her lap, she could've gotten off of the plane.
Even if so, the fact that UA would allow something illegal that violates FAA regulations and is dangerous, and that that's the "solution" UA found is extremely troubling
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Old Jul 5, 2017, 2:37 pm
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UA is in the tanks and leadership does not know how to change the moral of the company. I am sure glad I am 100% google flighting (needs a better phrase to replace kayaking) nowadays. Just gave some money to F9 and WN.
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Old Jul 5, 2017, 2:40 pm
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As some have indicated, "She's out for the money!"

Well I say --- GOOD, and I hope she gets a bundle! Are people really supposed to feel sorry for UAL, especially after these continual/inconsiderate/repetitive incidents?

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Old Jul 5, 2017, 2:47 pm
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Originally Posted by joshwex90
Even if so, the fact that UA would allow something illegal that violates FAA regulations and is dangerous, and that that's the "solution" UA found is extremely troubling
Meanwhile, they've boxed themselves in by committing not to deboard passengers. Having cleared the standby pax into a not actually empty seat they were a bit stuck - couldn't kick him off either (which, of course, is what they should have done - "I'm sorry, sir, but we miscalculated that the seat was available, and you'll be first on standby list on next flight".
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Old Jul 5, 2017, 2:55 pm
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Washington Post also carrying this now. Best line I saw in the article was this from United:

A United spokesman told The Post that the airline would compensate Yamauchi “as a goodwill gesture”
Goodwill gesture?!?! What???

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6c372ba4c8bf
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Old Jul 5, 2017, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
If she couldn't handle the kid on her lap, she could've gotten off of the plane.
The child is +2 yo, and cannot legally fly on the lap.

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Old Jul 5, 2017, 3:17 pm
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Maybe we should have a master thread "United Airlines apologizes after..."

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Old Jul 5, 2017, 3:20 pm
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Originally Posted by blueman2
Washington Post also carrying this now. Best line I saw in the article was this from United:



Goodwill gesture?!?! What???

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6c372ba4c8bf
I didn't see this comment until reading the article

“I was told if we refund you anything right now, we’re going to have to cancel the rest of your flight arrangements to Hawaii,” she told KITV.
The comments about the Dao incident are secondary to this. No wonder she didn't protest any further. Canceling the return trip as "punishment"?
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