Any Hawaii fare sale coming?
Jun 28, 2017, 10:55 am
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Any Hawaii fare sale coming?
Hi there,
I did a trip trip to Hawaii in UA J class last year, and it was sensational - both the trip AND the price.
This year I'd been monitoring fares, they were similarly low, but didn't pull the trigger in time. Now they've doubled.
Is there any "tribal knowledge" about when to expect fare sales ? We're not going until October, so still plenty of time.
Appreciate any insight !
I did a trip trip to Hawaii in UA J class last year, and it was sensational - both the trip AND the price.
This year I'd been monitoring fares, they were similarly low, but didn't pull the trigger in time. Now they've doubled.
Is there any "tribal knowledge" about when to expect fare sales ? We're not going until October, so still plenty of time.
Appreciate any insight !
Jun 28, 2017, 11:00 am
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Hi there,
I did a trip trip to Hawaii in UA J class last year, and it was sensational - both the trip AND the price.
This year I'd been monitoring fares, they were similarly low, but didn't pull the trigger in time. Now they've doubled.
Is there any "tribal knowledge" about when to expect fare sales ? We're not going until October, so still plenty of time.
Appreciate any insight !
I did a trip trip to Hawaii in UA J class last year, and it was sensational - both the trip AND the price.
This year I'd been monitoring fares, they were similarly low, but didn't pull the trigger in time. Now they've doubled.
Is there any "tribal knowledge" about when to expect fare sales ? We're not going until October, so still plenty of time.
Appreciate any insight !
You missed ~$2700 r.t. LHR-Hawaii mid-week P fares that were available for a couple of days in mid-May (with more lie-flats than ever available to Hawaii from U.S.). You should've pulled the trigger. May not see them again. Those fares are virtually snooze-you-lose events. If small chance exists they do show up again, it'll probably be before start of fall. Never have seen spectacular fares after September 1 between Hawaii and the E.U. (and GB
).The OGG-LHR itinerary I bought for $2700 is now $4300, which is about as low as I've seen since May.
Last edited by IAH-OIL-TRASH; Jun 28, 2017 at 12:46 pm
Jun 28, 2017, 3:35 pm
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Jun 29, 2017, 12:24 am
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That's the one ! Ex-YYZ I had seen fares of $1,400CAD.They appear to be gone though.
My thought was that they might be part of a (systemwide) fare sale.
Hope they make a return, definitely should have booked ! AA is still offering low fares in J, but I want to fly UA.
My thought was that they might be part of a (systemwide) fare sale.
Hope they make a return, definitely should have booked ! AA is still offering low fares in J, but I want to fly UA.
Jun 29, 2017, 5:05 am
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Jul 13, 2017, 4:20 pm
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Good news, my ex-YYZ fare sale is back. Are there any ITA Matrix gurus about ?
I want to travel YYZ/ORD/HNL on UA booking code P and connect HNL/LIH on WP booking code S.
I tried "YYZ:: UA,WP /F UA..P-|WP..S-", but no joy. Can anyone help with the proper syntax to specify this ?
I want to travel YYZ/ORD/HNL on UA booking code P and connect HNL/LIH on WP booking code S.
I tried "YYZ:: UA,WP /F UA..P-|WP..S-", but no joy. Can anyone help with the proper syntax to specify this ?
Jul 13, 2017, 4:31 pm
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Code:
YYZ :: UA ORD UA HNL WP /f bc=p :: LIH
Jul 13, 2017, 4:34 pm
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Assuming you are in tune with the fact that the routing and fare construction parts now go in different boxes and the :: is totally notional now:
But you cannot do this. The fare rules don't allow flying on WP or HA from YTO to LIH, so you have to route via a UA metal flight from the mainland.
Code:
YYZ :: UA ORD UA HNL WP /f bc=p :: LIH
But you cannot do this. The fare rules don't allow flying on WP or HA from YTO to LIH, so you have to route via a UA metal flight from the mainland.
Jul 13, 2017, 4:34 pm
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Good news, my ex-YYZ fare sale is back. Are there any ITA Matrix gurus about ?
I want to travel YYZ/ORD/HNL on UA booking code P and connect HNL/LIH on WP booking code S.
I tried "YYZ:: UA,WP /F UA..P-|WP..S-", but no joy. Can anyone help with the proper syntax to specify this ?
I want to travel YYZ/ORD/HNL on UA booking code P and connect HNL/LIH on WP booking code S.
I tried "YYZ:: UA,WP /F UA..P-|WP..S-", but no joy. Can anyone help with the proper syntax to specify this ?
Jul 13, 2017, 4:36 pm
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Code:
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
UA FLIGHTS 4051 THROUGH 4084 OPERATED BY 3M
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9L
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AX
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY C5
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY EV
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY G7
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY OO
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY RP
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY S5
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY XE
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY YV
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY YX.
Jul 13, 2017, 4:43 pm
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Quite possibly. All I know is that this fare (KNA4A9EN/UPDI YTO/LIH) requires:
Given that the routing prices in full F, I assume other fares in the market are similar.
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AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING UA FLIGHTS 4051 THROUGH 4084 OPERATED BY 3M ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9L ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AX ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY C5 ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY EV ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY G7 ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY OO ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY RP ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY S5 ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY XE ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY YV ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY YX.
Jul 13, 2017, 4:47 pm
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I don't see a fare class exception for the P fare for UA flights. (In other words, it looks like P inventory is required). Does that effectively mean that it can't be used to route on any single-class plane, regardless of carrier? My understanding is that you would only use the WP fare class mapping if you were using a WP code; perhaps I'm mistaken?
