Forced to Check Carry-On Baggage when Plenty of Space On-Board
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UA "having the right to" and "being right in doing" are two different things. I was in Group 1 when UA did it to me. Second person to board the empty aircraft. Pro-active smo-active--they just don't seem to know what they're doing in this regard. All they did that day was needlessly irritate a *A Gold and end up having to give them $100 for their senselessness.
As the OP correctly pointed out, what they did was wrong.
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OP -- I would politely write UA and let them know what happened in a concise email. They might throw some miles your way, but hopefully if nothing else they speak with the GA in question.
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I've had this on DL. I arrived at the gate a little late for Sky Priority boarding and apparently the bins were all full on this 757 (PHX-ATL, so not buying the weight/balance issue). My rollerbag was given a mandatory bag tag which I ripped off part way down the jetway and sure enough there was huge amounts of space in both F and from what I could see in Y.
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On something like this, I think OP deserves the benefit of our taking her word for it.
Greg
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UA reserves the right to check a Passenger’s Carry-on Baggage for any reason, including if the Carry-on Baggage cannot be safely stowed, or the Carry-on Baggage is not compliant with the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions specified in section 2) above.
By giving those example reasons, it looks like United would be reasonable about this. Although, of course they have this complete catch-all.
In the next clause, a "diaper bag" is listed as not included in carry-on or personal item regulations. If someone wants to pay the terms-of-contract game, you could technically be OK with a large diaper bag since there is no definition of this in the contract.
Maybe I'll start traveling with diaper bags as my carry-on item with UA from now on.
btw - I tried to have the baggage claim office deliver my item with the rationale I shouldn't have to wait when I unnecessarily was forced to check my bag. That didn't go over well
Calculated time was 29 minutes waiting for my bag that United's rude desk agent cost me and several other passengers forced to wait for their baggage when it wasn't necessary.
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It's funny. I have never flown an airliner in 30 years that was delayed because of bin spaces being full and bags needing to be sent down to the cargo hold.
This must be an american problem because quite frankly, this "problem" does not happen overseas.
Yes, I have seen gate agents stop passengers from time to time with bags they believe are oversized and should not be going into a cabin bin but..by en-large, what is wrong with UA and their staff?
Does this airline have some sort of problem with training their staff or do they just hire morons (union fault?) or do they just enjoy fighting with passengers all day long?
Bloody joke of an airline./
This must be an american problem because quite frankly, this "problem" does not happen overseas.
Yes, I have seen gate agents stop passengers from time to time with bags they believe are oversized and should not be going into a cabin bin but..by en-large, what is wrong with UA and their staff?
Does this airline have some sort of problem with training their staff or do they just hire morons (union fault?) or do they just enjoy fighting with passengers all day long?
Bloody joke of an airline./
Judging by the number of people (supposedly, paying pax not paid posters) spinning the facts around for UA in this very thread, UA has certainly mastered that black art and there could be a very bright future ahead of them.
Would suggest people to side with these masters by not flying them but follow ticker UAL closely which might just be the right combination to net you the most gain among airlines while cause you least trouble for your own travel.
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I obviously have no idea, but one possibility is that some families are fairly strict about bedtimes for little kids, and having to pick up the bag pushed her into the post-bedtime zone.
On something like this, I think OP deserves the benefit of our taking her word for it.
Greg
On something like this, I think OP deserves the benefit of our taking her word for it.
Greg
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DL and AA have been aggressive doing this as well. No problems with overhead space now since they are forcing gate checks well before the bins are full. Even more reason to board early and lice the gate area. Frustrating for all.
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Anyone who steps on a plane more than 2-3x a year is not even going to consider 29 minutes as something to become increasingly irate or dwell over.
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It's one thing when travel delays are unavoidable - it's another when it was completely unnecessary and forced on me by a silly GA.
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What time does your family all go to work and sleep, and what evening commitments and activities do you have for each of your friends & family?
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Westjet has been doing this however they spin it differently. They "offer" to check people's bags rather than force. People love it for the most part since they don't have to pay and for WS checking them before the bins ever fill up means less chance of a delay...better said, the delay gets put on us (the ground handlers) rather than them. It's rather frustrating to walk up to the bridge and see one of the first 10 passengers sauntering down the jetway with their tagged bag.
The other thing that gets me, this time as a passenger, is why is NO ONE ever told to use the space under the seat. I know no one WANTS to use that space, but most bags that get checked could fit under there, or a purse/backpack could be moved from the overhead under the seat to make room.
The other thing that gets me, this time as a passenger, is why is NO ONE ever told to use the space under the seat. I know no one WANTS to use that space, but most bags that get checked could fit under there, or a purse/backpack could be moved from the overhead under the seat to make room.