UA to Launch LAX-SIN!
Oct 16, 2017, 10:55 am
#213
Join Date: Feb 2008
Programs: 6 year GS, now 2MM Jeff-ugee, *wood LTPlt, SkyPeso PLT
Posts: 6,526
The 789 that UA is flying has seats that have personal space (arm-rests plus seat cushion) that is .2" narrower than on a 737 (19.8" vs. 20" of width per passenger).
Given that United carries lots of big, fat Americans, the idea of being on United's tin can for that length of time is a non-starter. I can spend more, and have options. You are welcome to it though.
Given that United carries lots of big, fat Americans, the idea of being on United's tin can for that length of time is a non-starter. I can spend more, and have options. You are welcome to it though.
Oct 16, 2017, 3:47 pm
#216
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, AA, DL
Posts: 7,418
Oct 16, 2017, 3:51 pm
#217
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: SFO
Posts: 3,941
Puhleeze! Let's not get carried away ... thousands of passengers fly in coach everyday and are not just "still living upon arrival". If First Class is your thing, all power to you.
Oct 16, 2017, 7:19 pm
#218
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: fwp blood diamond, dykwia uranium
Posts: 7,251
F Connect through NRT basically loses out 3300 LT miles, which is a big loss. I did see the fares of EWR-ICN through NRT and the OZ feeder to be much more affordable now.
Let's hope there will be some new fare basis to still allow people to get to SIN late at night.
Let's hope there will be some new fare basis to still allow people to get to SIN late at night.
Oct 16, 2017, 7:54 pm
#219
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: UA*Lifetime GS, Hyatt* Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 12,331
Exactly 40 years ago, my dad took me on a long trip. HKG to Mumbai to Middle East to London.
There were no direct flights from HK to London at the time, and I remembered sitting in the middle seat of the last row of the 747-100 (smokers' section) sandwiched between my dad (smoker at the time) and a mid-aged heavy smoker. The seat did not really recline because it was in the row in Y.
I remembered getting off in Mumbai while the plane was parked remotely away from the terminal and then we did another stop at an airport in the middle east (forgot which one), and I was so tired. My dad was about the same age I am now.
I remembered the heavy smoker talking over me to my dad about the technological advance in aviation and people can fly from London to HK in the comfort of the seats we were sitting and able to watch films on the overhead projection screen.
Fast forward 40 years later, I read people cannot fly long haul flights in 3x3x3 configuration of the 787 (standard configuration) and compare the experience to sitting in the cargo hold of a ship.
Life has changed and commercial aviation has evolved, and I have not flown transpac and transatlantic in a Y seat for the past ten years. (did SIN-MEL roundtrip in Y on SQ about 4 years ago, and my body came out in one piece).
I don't have a view on the debate of the sitting in UA's 787 Y on the LAX-SIN flight. I just want to share my experience of the flight I took 40 years ago in Y. That trip took more than 24 hours with the two fueling stops.
There were no direct flights from HK to London at the time, and I remembered sitting in the middle seat of the last row of the 747-100 (smokers' section) sandwiched between my dad (smoker at the time) and a mid-aged heavy smoker. The seat did not really recline because it was in the row in Y.
I remembered getting off in Mumbai while the plane was parked remotely away from the terminal and then we did another stop at an airport in the middle east (forgot which one), and I was so tired. My dad was about the same age I am now.
I remembered the heavy smoker talking over me to my dad about the technological advance in aviation and people can fly from London to HK in the comfort of the seats we were sitting and able to watch films on the overhead projection screen.
Fast forward 40 years later, I read people cannot fly long haul flights in 3x3x3 configuration of the 787 (standard configuration) and compare the experience to sitting in the cargo hold of a ship.
Life has changed and commercial aviation has evolved, and I have not flown transpac and transatlantic in a Y seat for the past ten years. (did SIN-MEL roundtrip in Y on SQ about 4 years ago, and my body came out in one piece).
I don't have a view on the debate of the sitting in UA's 787 Y on the LAX-SIN flight. I just want to share my experience of the flight I took 40 years ago in Y. That trip took more than 24 hours with the two fueling stops.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:10 pm
#220
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 11,460
Exactly 40 years ago, my dad took me on a long trip. HKG to Mumbai to Middle East to London.
There were no direct flights from HK to London at the time, and I remembered sitting in the middle seat of the last row of the 747-100 (smokers' section) sandwiched between my dad (smoker at the time) and a mid-aged heavy smoker. The seat did not really recline because it was in the row in Y.
I remembered getting off in Mumbai while the plane was parked remotely away from the terminal and then we did another stop at an airport in the middle east (forgot which one), and I was so tired. My dad was about the same age I am now.
I remembered the heavy smoker talking over me to my dad about the technological advance in aviation and people can fly from London to HK in the comfort of the seats we were sitting and able to watch films on the overhead projection screen.
Fast forward 40 years later, I read people cannot fly long haul flights in 3x3x3 configuration of the 787 (standard configuration) and compare the experience to sitting in the cargo hold of a ship.
Life has changed and commercial aviation has evolved, and I have not flown transpac and transatlantic in a Y seat for the past ten years. (did SIN-MEL roundtrip in Y on SQ about 4 years ago, and my body came out in one piece).
I don't have a view on the debate of the sitting in UA's 787 Y on the LAX-SIN flight. I just want to share my experience of the flight I took 40 years ago in Y. That trip took more than 24 hours with the two fueling stops.
There were no direct flights from HK to London at the time, and I remembered sitting in the middle seat of the last row of the 747-100 (smokers' section) sandwiched between my dad (smoker at the time) and a mid-aged heavy smoker. The seat did not really recline because it was in the row in Y.
I remembered getting off in Mumbai while the plane was parked remotely away from the terminal and then we did another stop at an airport in the middle east (forgot which one), and I was so tired. My dad was about the same age I am now.
I remembered the heavy smoker talking over me to my dad about the technological advance in aviation and people can fly from London to HK in the comfort of the seats we were sitting and able to watch films on the overhead projection screen.
Fast forward 40 years later, I read people cannot fly long haul flights in 3x3x3 configuration of the 787 (standard configuration) and compare the experience to sitting in the cargo hold of a ship.
Life has changed and commercial aviation has evolved, and I have not flown transpac and transatlantic in a Y seat for the past ten years. (did SIN-MEL roundtrip in Y on SQ about 4 years ago, and my body came out in one piece).
I don't have a view on the debate of the sitting in UA's 787 Y on the LAX-SIN flight. I just want to share my experience of the flight I took 40 years ago in Y. That trip took more than 24 hours with the two fueling stops.
Oct 17, 2017, 8:02 am
#222
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: ROC/NYC/MSP/LAX/HKG/SIN
Posts: 3,212
No. 1. I didn't persuade people to get on the UA no matter what because of the lifetime miles, I am just laying the facts. No. 2. If that's your logic, then you wouldn't set foot on UA TPAC leg either, because you can be on ANA which is a world-class carrier, and not worry about LT miles.
Oct 17, 2017, 12:15 pm
#223
Join Date: May 2000
Location: IAH
Programs: UA 1K 2.7MM, Marriott Titanium/LT Plat, IHG Spire
Posts: 3,317
I'm wondering how the new LAX-SIN service will draw passenger traffic away from the current SFO-SIN service.
For instance, I'm looking at flying SIN-US in E+ on 11/29 (I don't mind being in E+, to forestall all the "circle of hell" references
) and I notice that to SFO looks quite open whereas LAX is quite full. I would normally choose to go through LAX but if there's a better chance of an empty seat next to me (or major fingers crossed, a row to myself) I'm definitely going through SFO.
For instance, I'm looking at flying SIN-US in E+ on 11/29 (I don't mind being in E+, to forestall all the "circle of hell" references
) and I notice that to SFO looks quite open whereas LAX is quite full. I would normally choose to go through LAX but if there's a better chance of an empty seat next to me (or major fingers crossed, a row to myself) I'm definitely going through SFO.
Oct 17, 2017, 12:35 pm
#224
Join Date: Jan 2016
Programs: UA 1K; *G, AA Plat
Posts: 1,700
I'm wondering how the new LAX-SIN service will draw passenger traffic away from the current SFO-SIN service.
For instance, I'm looking at flying SIN-US in E+ on 11/29 (I don't mind being in E+, to forestall all the "circle of hell" references) and I notice that to SFO looks quite open whereas LAX is quite full. I would normally choose to go through LAX but if there's a better chance of an empty seat next to me (or major fingers crossed, a row to myself) I'm definitely going through SFO.
For instance, I'm looking at flying SIN-US in E+ on 11/29 (I don't mind being in E+, to forestall all the "circle of hell" references
) and I notice that to SFO looks quite open whereas LAX is quite full. I would normally choose to go through LAX but if there's a better chance of an empty seat next to me (or major fingers crossed, a row to myself) I'm definitely going through SFO.Having a good network of people in the LA area, I can count numerous times where they (and myself included) have flown Singapore Airlines to NRT and then onward to SIN. If there's a nonstop, we're all taking it. Not one of us would want to connect. It just saves that much more time.
Oct 17, 2017, 1:46 pm
#225
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: UA
Posts: 312
I would bet 'quite a bit'.
Having a good network of people in the LA area, I can count numerous times where they (and myself included) have flown Singapore Airlines to NRT and then onward to SIN. If there's a nonstop, we're all taking it. Not one of us would want to connect. It just saves that much more time.
Having a good network of people in the LA area, I can count numerous times where they (and myself included) have flown Singapore Airlines to NRT and then onward to SIN. If there's a nonstop, we're all taking it. Not one of us would want to connect. It just saves that much more time.
Possible once UA raises fares out of LAX, you may see flights even out.