Does UA rank/track customer interactions? Can you complain too much? Agent shopping?
#46
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Washington DC and Denver CO
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I expect lowered general quality - it's been United's trademark since 2012, and they clearly don't care. But the surly, bitter employees who see customers as nothing but a problem are the biggest albatross around United's neck right now, and I don't see a thing being done to fix it.
I really don't complain that much. And I do compliment. But I almost feel people should have more of a line - and I think personal rude treatment is over that line.
Also, I remember when 1KVoice would almost always give you a phone call the next day. Been a while since that happened.
#47
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 575
I've written about various things and often note I'm not looking for compensation. Power not working, wifi not working and things like that. The only one I followed up because i definitely wanted comp was when the FA spilled water on my laptop. She gave me a card with a code (different than the customer appreciation cards), and I filled it all out but the buggy website wouldn't take the last step so I emailed a picture to GSvoice or whatever it is. After 2 weeks I hadn't heard back so I sent a follow up and they responded saying the other dept was looking into it. Then they gave me an option for a cert or to send repair receipts for reimbursement. I fly way less today then I did when I was a 1k so I feel like I have less issues...but when I do, it's usually on a $5000+ ticket so I'm guessing that's why they seem to respond with comp even when i say I don't want any.
#48
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 214
Just shows there's some subjectivity involved in determining what's complaint worthy.
I encounter lazy, inattentive service with enough frequency (not just UA), that it's not going to hit the "complain" level for me. (And I don't really buy the whole "flight attendants are here primarily for your safety" line. If that were true, the airlines would impose fitness requirements, and obviously they do not. I pretty much assume that if stuff goes bad, it will be up to me to get my butt off the aircraft.)
I encounter lazy, inattentive service with enough frequency (not just UA), that it's not going to hit the "complain" level for me. (And I don't really buy the whole "flight attendants are here primarily for your safety" line. If that were true, the airlines would impose fitness requirements, and obviously they do not. I pretty much assume that if stuff goes bad, it will be up to me to get my butt off the aircraft.)
#49
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Posts: 707
IMO, the OP shouldn't be in any danger.
The only thing I'll add is that if the aim is to improve things for pax, perhaps ask 1K Voice to confirm that the FA 'wrote up' the issue(s) that you brought to their attention. Most appropriate for mechanical problems.
The only thing I'll add is that if the aim is to improve things for pax, perhaps ask 1K Voice to confirm that the FA 'wrote up' the issue(s) that you brought to their attention. Most appropriate for mechanical problems.
#50
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Chicago, IL USA
Posts: 189
As a 1K for over 20 years, I think using the 1K Voice is the only option to report service shortcomings regardless of compensation. I never ask for compensation, but would absolutely report surly service, and do so routinely. I also have reported the inability to use GPUs on any flights at the time of booking when business class seat maps show only 1-2 sold seats. I send this email several times a year when I've searched inventory for a 2-week period with no availability for upgrades. I have also accompanied this complaint by potential strategies, that include not offering upgrades that can't be used. Instead, offer 1Ks the ability to change tickets without change fees--or something else that is less disingenuous than RPUs and GPUs that are applied only after everyone on the flight has been offered a TOD upgrade offer that they've refused. I've basically suggested that they not offer something that frustrates so many people because it can't be used. I get some sort of letter each time ranging from a form letter that refers me to United's upgrade policies or from a human who says that my letter will be forwarded to senior management officials.
I have complained about wheelchair accessibility and wait time, special meals not being boarded, "running out" of a wine in global first on a return from China because enough wasn't boarded on the trip in from the US. (In fact, there was NONE of the wine--it had all been consumed inbound). Pelligrino is also in short supply in premium cabins--every international flight I've taken has rationed the Pelligrino and/or run out of it during a single 8-hour trip.
Most of my travel is international now, and there are so many options that provide superior service compared to United. On a recent 1K complaint, I told them that the inability to use GPUs that were about to expire meant that I was going to allocate my remaining $53,000 in business class trips for 2017 to other Star Alliance partners rather than to United. I am already 1K for next year and will easily log 200,000 with turning to other carriers for most of my remaining travel. I got a letter congratulating me for already earning 1K status for 2018, and apologizing that they could not do anything about the upgrade unavailability that prompted my letter.
I am also 2MM flyer, and this carries even less weight than 1K now.
What a difference from the times that 1K status actually meant something and was valued by United. That is clearly not the case now.
I have complained about wheelchair accessibility and wait time, special meals not being boarded, "running out" of a wine in global first on a return from China because enough wasn't boarded on the trip in from the US. (In fact, there was NONE of the wine--it had all been consumed inbound). Pelligrino is also in short supply in premium cabins--every international flight I've taken has rationed the Pelligrino and/or run out of it during a single 8-hour trip.
Most of my travel is international now, and there are so many options that provide superior service compared to United. On a recent 1K complaint, I told them that the inability to use GPUs that were about to expire meant that I was going to allocate my remaining $53,000 in business class trips for 2017 to other Star Alliance partners rather than to United. I am already 1K for next year and will easily log 200,000 with turning to other carriers for most of my remaining travel. I got a letter congratulating me for already earning 1K status for 2018, and apologizing that they could not do anything about the upgrade unavailability that prompted my letter.
I am also 2MM flyer, and this carries even less weight than 1K now.
What a difference from the times that 1K status actually meant something and was valued by United. That is clearly not the case now.
#51
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As a 1K for over 20 years, I think using the 1K Voice is the only option to report service shortcomings regardless of compensation. I never ask for compensation, but would absolutely report surly service, and do so routinely. I also have reported the inability to use GPUs on any flights at the time of booking when business class seat maps show only 1-2 sold seats.
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What a difference from the times that 1K status actually meant something and was valued by United. That is clearly not the case now.
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What a difference from the times that 1K status actually meant something and was valued by United. That is clearly not the case now.
Ah, for the days when 1K meant something.....
#52
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#53
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In my experience, compliments usually go much farther than complaints...
#55
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#56
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You don't want to be labeled a complainer in any frequent traveler program.
I think the UA threshold is reasonably high. I had a period when I was complaining to 1kvoice pretty frequently (bad old days) and it doesn't seem to have had any adverse impact.
I think the UA threshold is reasonably high. I had a period when I was complaining to 1kvoice pretty frequently (bad old days) and it doesn't seem to have had any adverse impact.
#57
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SAN
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Like some of you I have had some not great experiences with United the last couple of years and contacted UA and have chosen to fly other airlines but will make 1K again for 2018.
However, this past week I was on United flights and service was exemplary so I sent three seperate compliments (before I saw this post) about the staff members for each experience. I had never thought that too many complaints would be flagged, just like I do not expect compliments to be tracked. I certainly do not expect compensation (unless warranted, of course).
The great service has me considering more of my business going back to United as service has been increasing and GPUs are coming through (after a drought). Reasons I choose to fly UA. However, the other airlines have also done a great job and I have more flights scheduled with the other airlines.
However, this past week I was on United flights and service was exemplary so I sent three seperate compliments (before I saw this post) about the staff members for each experience. I had never thought that too many complaints would be flagged, just like I do not expect compliments to be tracked. I certainly do not expect compensation (unless warranted, of course).
The great service has me considering more of my business going back to United as service has been increasing and GPUs are coming through (after a drought). Reasons I choose to fly UA. However, the other airlines have also done a great job and I have more flights scheduled with the other airlines.
#58
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Customers are not always right. Legitimate or not - when you complain too much, the business may lose all patience entertaining the complaint and simply let you go.
#59
I complain about 5 times a year, on average. Usually for issues where I feel that compensation should've been offered, like malfunctioning wifi on a dark plane, or large (2h+) delays. However, I also write in with positive feedback every now and then, such as when I experience a great crew, so hopefully that balances out.
I never ask for compensation though. So far, all but one have been resolved to my satisfaction (UA offering miles or ETC, with an apology that feels like it wasn't completely constructed from pre-written paragraphs).
I never ask for compensation though. So far, all but one have been resolved to my satisfaction (UA offering miles or ETC, with an apology that feels like it wasn't completely constructed from pre-written paragraphs).
#60
Join Date: Dec 2013
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It's my understanding that the new on-board system that is currently rolling out doesn't allow compensation to be declined..... I can't think of an on-board issue that I would prefer to sort out after the fact with the new system; particularly as the issue concerned is automatically documented. I believe the new system is supposed to be connected to maintenance etc...