739 with no E+?
 

This is on LAX-BOS in June. Doesn't appear to have any extra space your normally see on the map for E+ seats. Anyone have an idea what's going on here? Don't want to book if not guaranteed E+.

When no E+ seats are empty and the map doesn't have to draw any blue seats, the map ends up looking like this. Based on the E- row 12 seat, you're looking at one of the 739's that's E+ in rows 7-11, and 20-21, all of which are full.

So, even though the map isn't drawn right, I still wouldn't book since E+ is full on that flight.

Agreed. Pick another LAX-BOS flight, look on another day or commute up to SFO and double triple the number of flights going to BOS - that also include IPTE seats.

David

p.s. and earn an additional 593 PQMs (or more depending on fare class booked) one way

p.p.s. missed that one of the LAX-BOS flights is a "direct" flight from LAX-SFO-BOS (same flight number) - so you wouldn't get the +593 PQMs

Thanks -- will steer clear of this. Probably will fly through SFO with the amount of frequency from there (want more @ LAX)!

But keep in mind that delays are considerably more likely -- first because you're connecting at all, second because you're connecting through SFO, and third because you're connecting through SFO on a short flight (which will get targeted by any flow control). If you're not concerned about the additional travel time, however, then you may not care about potential delays either.

P.S. The superior frequencies at SFO are entirely due to UA's suffocating presence here. I would trade the situation at LAX, with five robust domestic competitors, for the situation at SFO (one, soon to be two, domestic choices) in a heartbeat, even if it meant fewer frequencies on a specific airline between SFO and BOS.

Yeah, I'd like to see more UA LAX-BOS non-stops just to get more PQM, since for the next couple years I'll be doing a lot of trips to BOS, but I've just started splitting my RTs across airlines. There are enough flights total across multiple airlines that it's not so bad.

And the OPs seat map looks like what SeatGuru calls the 739 v3.

I'd actually consider booking it if the flight was within a week, because a bunch of E+ are going to empty as people upgrade into the empty F seats. You might also get a reasonable F buyup offer. This far out I'd probably hesitate because the F seats could fill enough that little or no E+ empties (though I've been lucky in virtually always getting an E+ seat, even as a silver)

Would check dates and possibly avoid; runway construction plus summer fog could delay LAX-SFO quite a bit. In fact, my last SFO flights (from PDX, LAX, BUR, DEN) in the last 3 weeks have all had +2 hour delays.

Flying in/out of SFO is awesome.

It would really be nice for an increase in LAX-BOS frequency, especially with flatbeds. It's a long domestic flight, especially westbound. I get restless in F, so in this case, E- does not appeal to me. :eek:

AA flies 5x/day
B6, VX and DL all fly 3x/day

think theres a version where 12 ABC are E+ (But DEF isn't), and then another where all of 12 is E-. So could be either, I think.

I didn't fly much last year so I slipped down to no status and had to spring for an E+ subscription. Except for the lack of help in IRROPS, that plus the Explorer card is better than silver.

I'm making VX/AS my second airline because I'll be doing a lot of flights to PDX the next few years and they have non-stops out of BUR and a good FF program.


Those show up as 739 V3 and V4 on seatguru-- on the V3 they make it the same number of rows of E+ on both sides, and on the V4 they have one more row on the right side. The asymmetry is because of a lav on the left side.

I'm not seeing any 752s on the LAX-BOS route. Only on SFO-BOS.

Best roulette I can suggest is get on one of the early weekday flights to SFO and then take your pick of what plane has the best seating to BOS - that's going to be the only way you'll have even an opportunity to buy up, upfare or apply an RPU to get into an IPTE seat.

Also, if you prefer/desire the bigger 772s as well to have more room to move around, these only fly the SFO-BOS route.

Stay on the LAX-BOS route only if you a) like 739s (and no IPTEs) and b) don't want to play the SFO roulette games.

David

About a year and a half ago they ran one or two of the PS planes on the LAX-BOS route for 6 or 8 weeks. They just sold the seats as F and didn't sell the flights as PS. It's not clear if it was dipping a toe to see if there was a market for PS on that route, or if it was just part of moving aircraft around to cover routes due to seasonal schedule changes and maintenance. IIRC there was a thread about it, or a discussion of it in the main PS thread.

For me, it already takes long enough to get LAX-BOS, between getting to LAX and getting an hour west of BOS when I get there, so I'll take a non-stop on a 739 over a change in SFO with the extra time and chance of weather delays.

Agree. IMO the 739 is just fine for 5-6 hours of lounging around as long as it isn't an overnight flight. I try to avoid redeyes as ~5hrs wheels up/down is just brutally short for me, but I suppose I might try to go through SFO in that case for a flatbed.

Yeah, I avoid redeyes for work - I try to fly out the morning before I have to be there, go to my meetings etc., and fly home on a morning flight the day after. I only like redeyes if I'm going to lay around and eat cookies at the destination.