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a350-1000 configuration confirmed - 337 seats {unverified}

a350-1000 configuration confirmed - 337 seats {unverified}

Old May 1, 17, 10:05 am
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a350-1000 configuration confirmed - 337 seats {unverified}




-60 Business (Polaris)
-91 Economy+
-186 Economy

Total: 337 seats

Seat suppliers: Zodiac&B/E Aerospace
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Old May 1, 17, 10:12 am
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Will the Polaris seats be the same as on the 77W?
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Old May 1, 17, 10:14 am
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So I am assuming the crew rest issues have been figured out?

Also interesting that they have the same number of J seats as the 77W which came at the expense at 29Y seats... possibly makes upgrades just a little easier but more figuring for Y+
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Old May 1, 17, 10:21 am
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still no PE cabin in sight
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Old May 1, 17, 10:31 am
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Not really a seat "map" given there's nothing to show actual layout . . . 3-3-3? 3-4-3?
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Old May 1, 17, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by drewguy View Post
Not really a seat "map" given there's nothing to show actual layout . . . 3-3-3? 3-4-3?
If I put money down on it, I think it will be 3-3-3. Interested in what the seat map will be. Alot of E+ and yup no Premium Econ anytime soon
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Old May 1, 17, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by drewguy View Post
Not really a seat "map" given there's nothing to show actual layout . . . 3-3-3? 3-4-3?
It'll be 3-3-3 on the A350.

Also, this:

In other words, no real idea if it is happening or not still.

And they lifted photos without permission to share, so I'm disinclined to respect them all that much.
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Old May 1, 17, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by Kmxu View Post
still no PE cabin in sight
I doubt there will be any mention of it (leak or otherwise) until it is actually announced. I don't put a whole lot of stock in this information, as far as I know there has been no fundamental change to the status of the A350 at UA in the last month (in other words, it's still on ice).
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Old May 1, 17, 11:54 am
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Bless Airbus, they made the cabin wider than the 787, but still too tight for 10 across.
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Old May 1, 17, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
Bless Airbus, they made the cabin wider than the 787, but still too tight for 10 across.
+1000... The numbers don't lie, and the bottom line is that per seat, once the 19 standard aisles are taken out:

-A380 (at 10x, lower deck) has 21.8/seat (at 8x, upper deck) has 23.8"/seat
-777 (at 9x) has 21.3"/seat
-763 (at 7x) has 21.2/seat
-A320 (at 6x) has 21.2/seat

-A330/330neo (at 8x) has 20.8"/seat
- A350 (at 9x) has 20.3/seat
-747 (at 10x) has 20.2/seat
-737/757 (at 6x) has 20/seat

-787 (at 9x) has 19.8"/seat
-777x (at 10x) has 19.7/seat
-777 (at 10x, using 18 aisles as UA is, which is why they are so narrow) has 19.4/seat

-A350 (at 10x) has 18.3"/seat.

Airbus will sell a 3-4-3 but it is only being used by ultra-budget carriers on leisure routes with lots of ex-pat traffic (see Air Cabrebe) who were also willing to do a 3-3-3 on the A330. Note that these carriers (see Air Cabrebe) will have E+ that is in the more traditional Y configuration (8x on the a330, 9x on the a330).
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Old May 1, 17, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by sbm12 View Post
It'll be 3-3-3 on the A350.

Also, this:
https://twitter.com/A350_Production/...92626249396224

In other words, no real idea if it is happening or not still.

And they lifted photos without permission to share, so I'm disinclined to respect them all that much.
They gave proper credit to the photos, which even the sources they got them from probably didn't have the express written permission to UA to use them.
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Old May 1, 17, 12:28 pm
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i'm not sure this source has any credibility, but entertaining discussion nonetheless.

i think we'll hear something more definite on the A350 order in the next month or two. it would be surprising to hear "we're still conducting our fleet review" in the Q2 earnings call.
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Old May 1, 17, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by dcsnowwake View Post
Alot of E+ and yup no Premium Econ anytime soon

The E+/E- ratio seems to be consistent with other twin-aisle planes: about 1:2 (except for the current pmUA 777, which is closer to 1:1)
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Old May 1, 17, 1:01 pm
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Y/J Ratio

Y/J Ratio
789 - 48/252 = 19.0% Polaris
77W - 60/366 = 16.4%
350 - 60/337 = 17.8%

E+/E
789 - 43.1%
77W - 33.3%
350 - 32.9%
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Old May 1, 17, 6:40 pm
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Originally Posted by dcsnowwake View Post
If I put money down on it, I think it will be 3-3-3. Interested in what the seat map will be. Alot of E+ and yup no Premium Econ anytime soon
which means more flying on the competition.
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