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Old Apr 30, 2017, 5:38 pm
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sUA 28J 757-200 to receive fuel tank mod, remain in fleet past 2018

757-200 28J fleet will be staying around longer. NGS kits are scheduled to be installed starting July 2018. HMV and C checks scheduled into 2019.
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Old Apr 30, 2017, 6:48 pm
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
757-200 28J fleet will be staying around longer. NGS kits are scheduled to be installed starting July 2018. HMV and C checks scheduled into 2019.
A smart move. It seems quite clear that current management didn't want to pull the trigger on A321neo LRs given how much they like the 'paper plane' Boeing 797. Hopefully they can refresh the cabins a little bit, though - all of the 752s feel a little beat up at this point in time.
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Old Apr 30, 2017, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
757-200 28J fleet will be staying around longer. NGS kits are scheduled to be installed starting July 2018. HMV and C checks scheduled into 2019.
Makes sense in a lot of ways, especially if the Boeing MoM plane is really coming in the near future. And it seems like the full fleet review promised by the incoming management is starting to get to some decision points.
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Old Apr 30, 2017, 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
757-200 28J fleet will be staying around longer. NGS kits are scheduled to be installed starting July 2018. HMV and C checks scheduled into 2019.
this is HUGE news and worthy of its own thread. i know many of us thought it would be a smart move to keep the pmUA birds flying, but for management to reverse the decision is nothing short of shocking to me (in a good way!).
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Old Apr 30, 2017, 9:16 pm
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I had a feeling the sub UA 752s would be sticking around longer based on the fuel tank mod announcement and that they are installing the orange warning straps/flags found on sub CO 757s and all 737 aircraft (what we place over the viewing window on the door when we arm the slide) on the sub UA 752s.
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Old Apr 30, 2017, 9:27 pm
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
I had a feeling the sub UA 752s would be sticking around longer based on the fuel tank mod announcement and that they are installing the orange warning straps/flags found on sub CO 757s and all 737 aircraft (what we place over the viewing window on the door when we arm the slide) on the sub UA 752s.
I always thought those were kind of redundant on the 757 because of the knuckle-knocker and since the door will disarm if opened from outside. With that said, the 757 is not immune to accidental slide deployment, so anything to prevent that makes sense, especially something as cheap as the orange strap. Will the sUA PA script be updated to ask flight attendants to "verify straps" before all-call?

Now that NGS is coming, I suspect the scimitar winglet caps on the 757-222s won't be far behind.
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Old Apr 30, 2017, 9:33 pm
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I always thought those were kind of redundant on the 757 because of the knuckle-knocker and since the door will disarm if opened from outside. With that said, the 757 is not immune to accidental slide deployment, so anything to prevent that makes sense, especially something as cheap as the orange strap. Will the sUA PA script be updated to ask flight attendants to "verify straps" before all-call?

Now that NGS is coming, I suspect the scimitar winglet caps on the 757-222s won't be far behind.
Safety feature basically. The sub UA FAs already have "verify straps" as part of their PA door spiel.
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Old Apr 30, 2017, 10:12 pm
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Kirby. Good call. No availability of other suitable aircraft to satisfy the route demand as UA attempted to draw down the PS fleet. They're old planes but DL runs 75s like they're band new. The sCO 75s have been a workhorse for years. Until Boeing or Airbus manufacture more RB211s, it's always going to be a catch-up play. Even the 321Neos are on the Pratt geared platform, I understand.

737-900ERs are great aircraft -- but there is no replacing the PS fleet & 75s. John Wayne or Glasgow, it's the only aircraft that you can point to a specific route and it just handles it.

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Old Apr 30, 2017, 10:35 pm
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^^

The bottom line was that even if United wanted to pull the trigger on A321neoLRs (or just regular neos) I doubt that United could have gotten enough A/C before 2018, which would have really put them in a hole with still very important premium passangers, for whom the 757 is far nicer than a retrofitted 737-900 would have been.

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Makes sense in a lot of ways, especially if the Boeing MoM plane is really coming in the near future.
What is "MoM" referring to?
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What is "MoM" referring to?
MoM = "Middle of the Market"

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Middle of Market.

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What is "MoM" referring to?
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Old May 1, 2017, 12:41 am
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great news!

757 is a great plane and its quite sad they got rid of the rest of the fleet...
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Old May 1, 2017, 12:50 am
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Originally Posted by entropy
great news!

757 is a great plane and its quite sad they got rid of the rest of the fleet...
I still don't know whether that's a huge deal. Unlike PMCO's 757 routes, there are very few PMUA domestic 757 routes that the 739 can't handle. For the higher traffic people mover routes from PMUA hubs, the 739 gets the job done at pretty much the same seat count (with slimlines, but still). PMUA never sent their 757s across the Atlantic, and as I understand it, the Pratt-powered 752 doesn't really have the legs for it anyway, so it's not like we're missing out on much.

With that said, I was sad to see them go too for sentimental reasons, and I made sure to book one last flight on the PMUA domestic 752 before they went. Nice to see they're keeping them for p.s. (and Hawaii and TATL) for a little while longer, as those are the routes where there really isn't anything else UA could get in a reasonable amount of time to replace them with.
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Old May 1, 2017, 1:27 am
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Originally Posted by char777
For the higher traffic people mover routes from PMUA hubs, the 739 gets the job done at pretty much the same seat count (with slimlines, but still).
Crucially for the premium transcon routes, the 739 doesn't and can't have lie flat seats. The A320 family has a slightly wider fuselage that sees carriers (e.g., AA, B6) configure it with 1-1 lie flat in J/F.

[edit:] sorry, just saw you actually made this same point.

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