What can we do: 1-day boycott, email campaigns to Congress, etc
Apr 12, 2017, 11:01 am
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Apr 12, 2017, 11:12 am
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Everyone is all over United policies, but does anyone know whether it was United personnel or personnel from Republic Airlines (the regional carrier that operated the flight) that was calling the shots here?
I would think the crew and ground staff were all Republic people. Anyone have any idea of how the United/Republic contract works? Whose policies decide how much gets offered for VDB? Who was the airline that wanted to bump four pax for crew members?
If United made the decisions and they called the shots, thats one thing, but if it was Republic Airline corporate policies that caused the issue, then that's something to consider. If its the latter, I wonder whether this will have an impact on United's contractual relationship with Republic going forward???
I would think the crew and ground staff were all Republic people. Anyone have any idea of how the United/Republic contract works? Whose policies decide how much gets offered for VDB? Who was the airline that wanted to bump four pax for crew members?
If United made the decisions and they called the shots, thats one thing, but if it was Republic Airline corporate policies that caused the issue, then that's something to consider. If its the latter, I wonder whether this will have an impact on United's contractual relationship with Republic going forward???
Apr 12, 2017, 12:50 pm
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It was one incident that spiraled out of control.
I am not going to faux outrage and boycott. But I don't fly United so that's irrelevant.
I am not going to faux outrage and boycott. But I don't fly United so that's irrelevant.
Apr 12, 2017, 12:50 pm
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Apr 12, 2017, 1:02 pm
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Outrage over United Airlines’ violent removal of a passenger in Chicago has crossed the Pacific, extending the company’s public relations fiasco to one of its most crucial international markets.
The haunting cellphone video, which shows an Asian man hurled from his seat and dragged off a flight Sunday, inundated Chinese social media Tuesday and evoked tens of thousands of livid responses.
Viewers picked up on translated comments from a fellow passenger that suggested the unidentified man thought he was selected “because I’m Chinese.”
Many accused the company of racism and urged customers to stop booking flights on United. The topic drew 110 million readers on Weibo, a Chinese rival to Twitter, and more than 72,000 comments. Petitions to boycott the airline circulated on the popular social media app WeChat.“Why are Chinese being bullied everywhere?” said one user on Weibo, where it became the day’s most popular topic.
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...411-story.html
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Yikes that's not good and as a UAL shareholder I know how valuable those long-haul routes to China are but wonder if the "re-accommodation" from hell could place those routes in a rather tenuous condition ?
The haunting cellphone video, which shows an Asian man hurled from his seat and dragged off a flight Sunday, inundated Chinese social media Tuesday and evoked tens of thousands of livid responses.
Viewers picked up on translated comments from a fellow passenger that suggested the unidentified man thought he was selected “because I’m Chinese.”
Many accused the company of racism and urged customers to stop booking flights on United. The topic drew 110 million readers on Weibo, a Chinese rival to Twitter, and more than 72,000 comments. Petitions to boycott the airline circulated on the popular social media app WeChat.“Why are Chinese being bullied everywhere?” said one user on Weibo, where it became the day’s most popular topic.
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...411-story.html
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Yikes that's not good and as a UAL shareholder I know how valuable those long-haul routes to China are but wonder if the "re-accommodation" from hell could place those routes in a rather tenuous condition ?
All Asians are not the same.
Apr 12, 2017, 1:03 pm
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This is BS. IDBs happen everyday and no one has ever cared. Now all of a sudden everyone is outraged about IDB policies, and these social media warriors are all of a sudden airline experts? The only reason anyone cares is because the man was bloodied and mistreated by police. So just by that reasoning alone the group we should be outraged with is the police, not United. If you were truly upset by United's IDB policies you should have spoken up years ago. But you're not upset at United's IDB policies, you're mad at the police. So channel your energy towards them.
That has all changed now, thanks to this courageous man. Now, the IDB problem is receiving the attention it deserves. The sad thing is that this is an issue that could easily have been fixed through application of simple free market principles. Instead UA chose to resolve through use of force, because it did not want to pay the price. Disgusting.
Apr 12, 2017, 1:09 pm
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I must have missed the part of airline staff lying to the CPD in the mega thread (no time to keep up with it). What happened, and will the airline personnel be charged with lying to a police officer?
Apr 12, 2017, 1:19 pm
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I am not going to back of the fact the passenger is also to blame for part of this. I can assure you no matter how bad a personal situation got for me on a plane I would not take it to the point of being dragged off by police
Apr 12, 2017, 1:22 pm
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With all due respect, CPD would never have been involved if airline personnel had not lied to them. This was a simple breach of contract issue, that never required intervention by CPD. Unfortunately since 9/11 there is too much deference to airline staff, even in situations like this where there is no hint of terrorism or danger to crew or other passengers.
Umm, no. I would bet if you ask anyone who has been IDB'd that you would receive a different answer. Everyone cares, but nobody is willing to take up the fight because DOT permits airlines to overbook and then lets them use IDB to fix their problem. Airlines contribute heavily to politicians, who in turn oversee DOT budget. So resistance was futile.
That has all changed now, thanks to this courageous man. Now, the IDB problem is receiving the attention it deserves. The sad thing is that this is an issue that could easily have been fixed through application of simple free market principles. Instead UA chose to resolve through use of force, because it did not want to pay the price. Disgusting.
Umm, no. I would bet if you ask anyone who has been IDB'd that you would receive a different answer. Everyone cares, but nobody is willing to take up the fight because DOT permits airlines to overbook and then lets them use IDB to fix their problem. Airlines contribute heavily to politicians, who in turn oversee DOT budget. So resistance was futile.
That has all changed now, thanks to this courageous man. Now, the IDB problem is receiving the attention it deserves. The sad thing is that this is an issue that could easily have been fixed through application of simple free market principles. Instead UA chose to resolve through use of force, because it did not want to pay the price. Disgusting.
Apr 12, 2017, 1:28 pm
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Apr 12, 2017, 1:28 pm
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Chicago police officers weren't even on that United Express plane Sunday evening at O'Hare International Airport, yet somehow their department has also taken a beating.
Apr 12, 2017, 1:30 pm
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Apr 12, 2017, 1:54 pm
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Apr 12, 2017, 2:34 pm
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Uhm... sometimes that actually happens. And what the GA does is put all those people on a VDB list. And then takes a person off from the top of the list one-by-one as their seat is needed. The rest get told to board the plane. A long time ago, United used to give a $25 flight credit voucher for those people who volunteered, but whose seats were not needed in the end. Maybe that practice should be re-introduced. And it's much easier now as it would be in the form of an e-cert.