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Statement from United Airlines Regarding Resolution with Dr. David Dao - released 27 April 2017
CHICAGO, April 27, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- We are pleased to report that United and Dr. Dao have reached an amicable resolution of the unfortunate incident that occurred aboard flight 3411. We look forward to implementing the improvements we have announced, which will put our customers at the center of everything we do.
DOT findings related to the UA3411 9 April 2017 IDB incident 12 May 2017

What facts do we know?
  • UA3411, operated by Republic Airways, ORD-SDF on Sunday, April 9, 2017. UA3411 was the second to last flight to SDF for United. AA3509 and UA4771 were the two remaining departures for the day. Also, AA and DL had connecting options providing for same-day arrival in SDF.
  • After the flight was fully boarded, United determined four seats were needed to accommodate crew to SDF for a flight on Monday.
  • United solicited volunteers for VDB. (BUT stopped at $800 in UA$s, not cash). Chose not to go to the levels such as 1350 that airlines have been known to go even in case of weather impacted disruption)
  • After receiving no volunteers for $800 vouchers, a passenger volunteered for $1,600 and was "laughed at" and refused, United determined four passengers to be removed from the flight.
  • One passenger refused and Chicago Aviation Security Officers were called to forcibly remove the passenger.
  • The passenger hit the armrest in the aisle and received a concussion, a broken nose, a bloodied lip, and the loss of two teeth.
  • After being removed from the plane, the passenger re-boarded saying "I need to go home" repeatedly, before being removed again.
  • United spokesman Jonathan Guerin said the flight was sold out — but not oversold. Instead, United and regional affiliate Republic Airlines – the unit that operated Flight 3411 – decided they had to remove four passengers from the flight to accommodate crewmembers who were needed in Louisville the next day for a “downline connection.”

United Express Flight 3411 Review and Action Report - released 27 April 2017

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Internal Communication by Oscar Munoz
Oscar Munoz sent an internal communication to UA employees (sources: View From The Wing, Chicago Tribune):
Dear Team,

Like you, I was upset to see and hear about what happened last night aboard United Express Flight 3411 headed from Chicago to Louisville. While the facts and circumstances are still evolving, especially with respect to why this customer defied Chicago Aviation Security Officers the way he did, to give you a clearer picture of what transpired, I've included below a recap from the preliminary reports filed by our employees.

As you will read, this situation was unfortunately compounded when one of the passengers we politely asked to deplane refused and it became necessary to contact Chicago Aviation Security Officers to help. Our employees followed established procedures for dealing with situations like this. While I deeply regret this situation arose, I also emphatically stand behind all of you, and I want to commend you for continuing to go above and beyond to ensure we fly right.

I do, however, believe there are lessons we can learn from this experience, and we are taking a close look at the circumstances surrounding this incident. Treating our customers and each other with respect and dignity is at the core of who we are, and we must always remember this no matter how challenging the situation.

Oscar

Summary of Flight 3411
  • On Sunday, April 9, after United Express Flight 3411 was fully boarded, United's gate agents were approached by crewmembers that were told they needed to board the flight.
  • We sought volunteers and then followed our involuntary denial of boarding process (including offering up to $1,000 in compensation) and when we approached one of these passengers to explain apologetically that he was being denied boarding, he raised his voice and refused to comply with crew member instructions.
  • He was approached a few more times after that in order to gain his compliance to come off the aircraft, and each time he refused and became more and more disruptive and belligerent.
  • Our agents were left with no choice but to call Chicago Aviation Security Officers to assist in removing the customer from the flight. He repeatedly declined to leave.
  • Chicago Aviation Security Officers were unable to gain his cooperation and physically removed him from the flight as he continued to resist - running back onto the aircraft in defiance of both our crew and security officials.
Email sent to all employees at 2:08PM on Tuesday, April 11.
Dear Team,

The truly horrific event that occurred on this flight has elicited many responses from all of us: outrage, anger, disappointment. I share all of those sentiments, and one above all: my deepest apologies for what happened. Like you, I continue to be disturbed by what happened on this flight and I deeply apologize to the customer forcibly removed and to all the customers aboard. No one should ever be mistreated this way.

I want you to know that we take full responsibility and we will work to make it right.

It’s never too late to do the right thing. I have committed to our customers and our employees that we are going to fix what’s broken so this never happens again. This will include a thorough review of crew movement, our policies for incentivizing volunteers in these situations, how we handle oversold situations and an examination of how we partner with airport authorities and local law enforcement. We’ll communicate the results of our review by April 30th.

I promise you we will do better.

Sincerely,

Oscar
Statement to customers - 27 April 2017
Each flight you take with us represents an important promise we make to you, our customer. It's not simply that we make sure you reach your destination safely and on time, but also that you will be treated with the highest level of service and the deepest sense of dignity and respect.

Earlier this month, we broke that trust when a passenger was forcibly removed from one of our planes. We can never say we are sorry enough for what occurred, but we also know meaningful actions will speak louder than words.

For the past several weeks, we have been urgently working to answer two questions: How did this happen, and how can we do our best to ensure this never happens again?

It happened because our corporate policies were placed ahead of our shared values. Our procedures got in the way of our employees doing what they know is right.

Fixing that problem starts now with changing how we fly, serve and respect our customers. This is a turning point for all of us here at United – and as CEO, it's my responsibility to make sure that we learn from this experience and redouble our efforts to put our customers at the center of everything we do.

That’s why we announced that we will no longer ask law enforcement to remove customers from a flight and customers will not be required to give up their seat once on board – except in matters of safety or security.

We also know that despite our best efforts, when things don’t go the way they should, we need to be there for you to make things right. There are several new ways we’re going to do just that.

We will increase incentives for voluntary rebooking up to $10,000 and will be eliminating the red tape on permanently lost bags with a new "no-questions-asked" $1,500 reimbursement policy. We will also be rolling out a new app for our employees that will enable them to provide on-the-spot goodwill gestures in the form of miles, travel credit and other amenities when your experience with us misses the mark. You can learn more about these commitments and many other changes at hub.united.com.

While these actions are important, I have found myself reflecting more broadly on the role we play and the responsibilities we have to you and the communities we serve.

I believe we must go further in redefining what United's corporate citizenship looks like in our society. If our chief good as a company is only getting you to and from your destination, that would show a lack of moral imagination on our part. You can and ought to expect more from us, and we intend to live up to those higher expectations in the way we embody social responsibility and civic leadership everywhere we operate. I hope you will see that pledge express itself in our actions going forward, of which these initial, though important, changes are merely a first step.

Our goal should be nothing less than to make you truly proud to say, "I fly United."

Ultimately, the measure of our success is your satisfaction and the past several weeks have moved us to go further than ever before in elevating your experience with us. I know our 87,000 employees have taken this message to heart, and they are as energized as ever to fulfill our promise to serve you better with each flight and earn the trust you’ve given us.

We are working harder than ever for the privilege to serve you and I know we will be stronger, better and the customer-focused airline you expect and deserve.

With Great Gratitude,

Oscar Munoz
CEO
United Airlines
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UA's Customer Commitment says:
Occasionally we may not be able to provide you with a seat on a specific flight, even if you hold a ticket, have checked in, are present to board on time, and comply with other requirements. This is called an oversale, and occurs when restrictions apply to operating a particular flight safely (such as aircraft weight limits); when we have to substitute a smaller aircraft in place of a larger aircraft that was originally scheduled; or if more customers have checked in and are prepared to board than we have available seats.

If your flight is in an oversale situation, you will not be denied a seat until we first ask for volunteers willing to give up their confirmed seats. If there are not enough volunteers, we will deny boarding to passengers in accordance with our written policy on boarding priority. If you are involuntarily denied boarding and have complied with our check-in and other applicable rules, we will give you a written statement that describes your rights and explains how we determine boarding priority for an oversold flight. You will generally be entitled to compensation and transportation on an alternate flight.

We make complete rules for the payment of compensation, as well as our policy about boarding priorities, available at airports we serve. We will follow these rules to ensure you are treated fairly. Please be aware that you may be denied boarding without compensation if you do not check in on time or do not meet certain other requirements, or if we offer you alternative transportation that is planned to arrive at your destination or first stopover no later than one hour after the planned arrival time of your original flight.
CoC is here: https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...-carriage.aspx
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by BearX220
Horrible advice. That would be the cherry on the nightmare-PR sundae. Punishing the truth-tellers would go over disastrously in the court of public opinion. UA would be compared to abusive cops whose body cams mysteriously conk out at key times.
What about all those bad guys who will use the videos to reverse engineer part dimensions and fabricate rogue replacements to sneak onboard slowly??
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 6:50 am
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Yet this incident has gone viral and shocked people outside the US more than in the US. In the US, people are used to these incidents/standards (albeit usually not as bad). But people elsewhere have expectations of more decent service, at least treatment from airlines and law enforcement. This is what has shocked them most. That the doctor is Vientnamese (of Chinese descent?) does not help at all as media in Asia is rife that this was racist, that if he were not Asian he would not have been treated so badly. This will be VERY damaging, NOT JUST TO UA, but to the US and the American people.
Asian FAs lower themselves to speak to passengers at eye level, especially in premium cabins. Possibly too deferential, but this is the benchmark to which United FAs will be compared in Asian markets.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 6:51 am
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Originally Posted by fly18725
United crew can remove passengers from the plane and refuse to transport them for a perceived safety risk.
There was no safety risk by refusing to leave his booked seat.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by milypan
Yup, the lack of empowerment is pretty obvious to any UA frequent flyer. UA made a bet that the $1,350/400% cap was the maximum liability it would ever face for an IDB situation, and set strict limits on its discount coupon offers for VDB accordingly. It retrospect it was a very dumb bet on their part, and now they are paying the price.
UA's refusal to increase the VDB offer cost them one billion dollars in market value. There aren't many companies where the (in)actions of a couple low levels employees can have such a massive impact.

Overbooking and especially the IDB rules are basically ways for an airline to shift some risk from itself to its customers while simultaneously not only increasing profits but also increasing the average fare paid since the additional tickets sold will be the most expensive ones on the flight.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by BearX220
Notes from Oscar Munoz interview on Good Morning America just now. Interview was taped and edited, not live, and conducted in Chicago last night or early this morning... perhaps at a PR firm's office (the reporter's wraparound on-street standup did not appear to originate from outside Willis Tower):

(What is your reaction to the videos?) The word shame comes to mind.

It's most important to apologize to Dr. Dao, the passengers on that flight, our customers and employees... this will never happen again on a United Airlines flight.

(Why did you at first describe the passenger as belligerent, etc.?) My first reaction is to get the facts... My initial words fell short of truly expressing what we are feeling. That's something I've learned from. The expression of apology is an important part of this conversation, because that shame and embarrassment are pretty palpable for me and a lot of our (United) family.

We're reviewing a lot of our policies. The use of law enforcement aboard an aircraft of ours has to be looked at very carefully.

(What went wrong?) A system failure. We have not provided our front-line supervisors and managers with the proper tools, policies, and procedures that allow them to use their common sense. And our people have great common sense. That's on me. I have to fix that.

(People are surprised to learn that you can be asked to leave a flight without compensation. What needs to change here?) We need to re-look at many of those points. There is an incentive program that works pretty well at the gate (in overbooking situations). Clearly when you're boarded and seated, that incentive program needs to change.

(A law enforcement official will never board one of your planes again?) To remove a booked, seated passenger? No. We can't do that.

(Have you spoken with Dr. Dao?) No. We've tried to reach out to him and we're still trying.

(What do you think he deserves?) Certainly an apology, and then we'll see.

(Do you think he's at fault in any way?) "No. He can't be. He was a paying passenger seated on our aircraft, and nobody should be treated that way."

(Many PR pros believe this was handled improperly by you and your team and you should consider resigning. Have you?) "No. I was hired to make United better and that's what I'm doing."
I loved CO and have disliked UA since the merger. Speaking with many UA employees over the past year, the bulk of them LOVE Oscar. I've been impressed with his ability to humanize situations. I still think there is a very long way to go in terms of the customer service, but this interview is a reason why I do believe things are at least pointed in the right direction.

Not sure you'd get any more honest answers than this. I'm certain counsel was not thrilled with some of his answers (especially the "we'll see"), but it was necessary. Too late? Perhaps. But better late than never.

The key, to me, will be to see what they unveil on 4/30 as per his promise. If it's nothing, this was a pure PR stunt. If meaningful progress has been made on these archaic regulations, this can be somewhat salvaged as moving the needle in the right direction (albeit at great cost).
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by Enhancements
You expect million milers to have empathy?

BTW- don't feed the trolls; a few points have been argued to death and it's just goalposts being moved as of now.
Hey, I'm a million miler and have said from the start that UA did almost everything wrong, especially not raising the VDB incentives enough to get volunteers and then calling the cops.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by BearX220
Notes from Oscar Munoz interview on Good Morning America just now. Interview was taped and edited, not live, and conducted in Chicago last night or early this morning... perhaps at a PR firm's office (the reporter's wraparound on-street standup did not appear to originate from outside Willis Tower):

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(What went wrong?) A system failure. We have not provided our front-line supervisors and managers with the proper tools, policies, and procedures that allow them to use their common sense. And our people have great common sense. That's on me. I have to fix that.
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Yes, the amount of flexibility that gate agents have is very low nowadays, even station managers are basically forced to you flowcharts to come to decisions.
A friend of my Dad was an airline CEO and dad approached him with a problem he'd experienced when flying. This is going back a good few years mind you. I think from memory he was on an internal flight in Y connecting to an international flight in F and top tier in the FFP. The Y flight was going to be late and he was hoping to get on the earlier flight so there was less chance of missing the F flight. It was an inflexible ticket so the check in & gate agent said no to the earlier flight despite the fact that this will save the airline money.

So he asked his CEO friend out of curiosity about what the actual policy was. The CEO said that the policy was that technically you didn't change inflexible tickets and they were technically correct in what had been said. However he then said that he was trying to get people to use their common sense. He said that in that case they should have looked at the entire itinerary spotted the F connecting flight and the status. "Obviously the message isn't getting through to all the managers."
Seems they need the same thing common sense.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 6:59 am
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Originally Posted by DrunkCargo
What about all those bad guys who will use the videos to reverse engineer part dimensions and fabricate rogue replacements to sneak onboard slowly??
Please tell me you are joking...
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 6:59 am
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Originally Posted by gold23
I'm certain counsel was not thrilled with some of his answers (especially the "we'll see"), but it was necessary. Too late? Perhaps. But better late than never.
+1

Counsel is likely one reason why the initial response to this was so crap to begin with. With contrition, acceptance of responsibility and acknowledgment of the issues they're now on the right track.

As you say, now the words need to be backed up with tangible actions.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 7:01 am
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When it takes Oscar several tries to cobble together a statement that makes sense, it doesn't instill confidence. His judgment has been flawed and likely still is. The underlying problem is this airline doesn't have a customer-first strategy. Instead, it operates as an evil monopoly. United's brand has been unhealthy for many years. It will take many years if ever to restore to health. A big fincancial hit is looming due to mismanagement of the brand.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 7:01 am
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Originally Posted by simpletastes
Asian FAs lower themselves to speak to passengers at eye level, especially in premium cabins.
No need to swear the reputation of all US FAs. Sure, there are plenty of bad apples, but I (and many others here) experienced truly great service by American FAs, including FAs lowering themselves to speak to me.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 7:03 am
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Has there been a report whether the deadheaders made it to SDF on time and if that next day's flight went out normally?

I wonder if part of the problem here is how many UA employees seem to live in places other than their "duty station" or whatever it's properly called. Seems like I hear a lot about UA employees commuting to work by air. Lot of scope for screwups and seems as though they take up a lot of seats.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 7:06 am
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Originally Posted by BertieWooster
That is really well written and puts United in an even worse light in my view. I wonder how quickly United's lawyers will be amending its Contract of Carriage to include "to free up seats" in the list of justifications for Rule 21 (Refusal to Transport).
They may or may not. In theory, if they deboard someone under Refusal to Transport, they are not subject to DOT IDB rules. It would seem that DOT would need to modify their results to include this situation, and perhaps in light of the current public interest in this case, the penalties would be substantially higher on the airlines. On the other hand, I foresee a lot more people waiting in the gate area for seat assignments.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
Hey, I'm a million miler and have said from the start that UA did almost everything wrong, especially not raising the VDB incentives enough to get volunteers and then calling the cops.
Totally agree, but not surprised. This is unfortunate evidence (once again) of power tripping line employees not caring about the customer. This happens way too often on United and frankly I'm not optimistic that Oscar can fix it. We shall see.
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Old Apr 12, 2017, 7:07 am
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Wouldn't be surprised if the man with the coloured history is indeed a different person than the passenger, I did think he looked very young for almost 70.
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