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YYC009 Apr 4, 2017 10:29 pm

United ends Tokyo – Seoul route in Oct 2017
 
Per the link on airlineroute.net:

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...e-in-oct-2017/

I would have thought they would wait until after the Olympic and Paralympics in PyeongChang before cutting capacity to Seoul if UNITED can't fill seats to South Korea. Would think there would be lots of people traveling in preparation of the Games, especially in the months prior and then during them.

mahasamatman Apr 4, 2017 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by YYC009 (Post 28131048)
I would have thought they would wait until after the Olympic and Paralympics in PyeongChang before cutting capacity to Seoul

Maybe they just want to let NH handle that short segment and rellocate the equipment to a more appropriate route.


Originally Posted by YYC009 (Post 28131048)
if UNITED can't fill seats to South Korea.

There's a big difference between filling seats and making a profit.

warrenw Apr 4, 2017 10:33 pm

WHAT.

This is a regular route for me. I'm sure it's going to be handed over to OZ (I rarely if ever see NH codeshares) but that's going to make the price even higher.

All the past flights I can remember have been full. This makes no sense to me.

Edit: I also find it interesting they're ending it right around the same time they're switching out the 747 on the SFO-ICN route. Coincidence?

JOSECONLSCREW28 Apr 4, 2017 10:36 pm

3 of the GUM based 737s will return to the mainland with NRT-ICN being cut.

JVPhoto Apr 4, 2017 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by warrenw (Post 28131059)

Edit: I also find it interesting they're ending it right around the same time they're switching out the 747 on the SFO-ICN route. Coincidence?

I believe ~ Oct 28 is typically the end of a schedule/season for airlines.

ICN1K Apr 4, 2017 10:44 pm

I was hoping today was still April 1st. Very sad news for me. Happy hour is just a few hours away though. :(

JOSECONLSCREW28 Apr 4, 2017 10:49 pm

Company states the 3 737s returning to the mainland will be better utilized here as well as expanding service.

mahasamatman Apr 4, 2017 10:51 pm


Originally Posted by warrenw (Post 28131059)
All the past flights I can remember have been full. This makes no sense to me.

There's a big difference between filling seats and making a profit.

warrenw Apr 4, 2017 11:00 pm


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 28131105)
There's a big difference between filling seats and making a profit.

I understand that. I think the flight was mainly used for passengers connecting from NRT-ICN and vice versa, as the flight was timed as such that they ferry people in for the outbound and take people back for the inbound. If you try to buy just the roundtrip NRT-ICN it's much more expensive than a comparable flight on OZ.

Either way this is a huge blow for me. Throwing an OZ flight into the mix *usually* has increased the price significantly.

warrenw Apr 4, 2017 11:02 pm


Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28 (Post 28131069)
3 of the GUM based 737s will return to the mainland with NRT-ICN being cut.

Is this the only route? They're using 3 737's for one route? Doesn't make sense to use that many, as they usually overnight the 737 in ICN and it only makes one daily trip.

slippahs Apr 5, 2017 1:05 am

Well that's the last of the NRT-Asia routes. SAD.

cubachao Apr 5, 2017 2:54 am

TBH, the 737-800 could be used for domestic flight, may have better profit than NRT-ICN

ajeleonard Apr 5, 2017 3:16 am


Originally Posted by warrenw (Post 28131126)
Is this the only route? They're using 3 737's for one route? Doesn't make sense to use that many, as they usually overnight the 737 in ICN and it only makes one daily trip.

Presumably the aircraft flies a GUM-NRT-ICN-NRT-GUM routing, and the awkward timings mean utilisation is poor

764toHI Apr 5, 2017 5:17 am

I agree with everyone's sentiment, I'd rather connect in NRT than SFO to get to ICN. Too bad the 738 sits in ICN overnight for ~16 hours.

PsiFighter37 Apr 5, 2017 5:43 am

Can NRT really be called a 'hub' at this rate? It has only one non-hub destination (HNL) and services less flights than LHR.


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