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No longer able to book LH Group intra-Europe only flights on UA 016 ticket stock

No longer able to book LH Group intra-Europe only flights on UA 016 ticket stock

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Old Mar 14, 17, 7:14 am
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No longer able to book LH Group intra-Europe only flights on UA 016 ticket stock

Effective today LH group no longer allows other carriers to plate pure LH group fares. So UA will no longer be able to sell intra Europe tickets on UA.bomb and on 016 stock. UA/LH fares filed under the various JVs (transatlantic, J++, etc) are not affected.
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Old Mar 14, 17, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Effective today LH group no longer allows other carriers to plate pure LH group fares. So UA will no longer be able to sell intra Europe tickets on UA.bomb and on 016 stock. UA/LH fares filed under the various JVs (transatlantic, J++, etc) are not affected.
Confirmed, they are only selling Y and J classes now.
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Old Mar 14, 17, 8:29 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Effective today LH group no longer allows other carriers to plate pure LH group fares. So UA will no longer be able to sell intra Europe tickets on UA.bomb and on 016 stock. UA/LH fares filed under the various JVs (transatlantic, J++, etc) are not affected.
Just to be clear, one can still buy a TATL with an intra-Europe connection in discount fare classes on UA stock, e.g., SFO-FRA-BUD can be ticketed on 016 in the discount Z bucket.

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Confirmed, they are only selling Y and J classes now.
Apparently OS did not get the memo.
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Old Mar 14, 17, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Effective today LH group no longer allows other carriers to plate pure LH group fares. So UA will no longer be able to sell intra Europe tickets on UA.bomb and on 016 stock. UA/LH fares filed under the various JVs (transatlantic, J++, etc) are not affected.
I am trying to book a one-way ticket from the US -> Europe using UA for the TATL part, then LH to connect intra-europe. All fares on united.com are Y/J only! Pretty much any fare that combines a UA metal TATL and a LH flight. I hope this is a bug!

Edit: Perhaps this is a long-running issue with one-way fares US -> EU, as they often price into high fare buckets. However I am seeing similar problems with round trip fares, but not as many.


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Originally Posted by johnden View Post
I am trying to book a one-way ticket from the US -> Europe using UA for the TATL part, then LH to connect intra-europe. All fares on united.com are Y/J only! Pretty much any fare that combines a UA metal TATL and a LH flight. I hope this is a bug!

Edit: Perhaps this is a long-running issue with one-way fares US -> EU, as they often price into high fare buckets. However I am seeing similar problems with round trip fares, but not as many.

The one-way fare is a completely separate issue. Almost all (I'd venture even all, but somebody will probably find one and prove me wrong) TATL fares require a round trip purchase. Separate from the intra-europe LH plating restrictions Oliver posted.
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Old Mar 14, 17, 11:45 am
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Just to be clear, one can still buy a TATL with an intra-Europe connection in discount fare classes on UA stock, e.g., SFO-FRA-BUD can be ticketed on 016 in the discount Z bucket.
Yep, the usual longhaul fares should be available easily. The LH group operated regional fares are now off limits for UA to plate on their stock.
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Effective today LH group no longer allows other carriers to plate pure LH group fares. So UA will no longer be able to sell intra Europe tickets on UA.bomb and on 016 stock. UA/LH fares filed under the various JVs (transatlantic, J++, etc) are not affected.
Your source? Asking because this makes it harder to earn PQDs for those of us chasing United status.
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Originally Posted by sannmann View Post
Your source? Asking because this makes it harder to earn PQDs for those of us chasing United status.
It's in the fare tables.

Code:
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
   TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF LH OR OS
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OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF LH OR LX
....
 OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF LH OR SN
Even an expensive Y (e.g. Y62FLX9A for $679 FRA-CDG) has this restriction. Only full Y (e.g. Y77 for $866 FRA-CDG) does not. You can see for yourself if you use UA.com to price an intra Europe flight on LH group. Only crazy prices now.
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Old Mar 14, 17, 1:43 pm
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Its been coded into fares this month, but implied in the revision to TAs a few weeks ago:
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Gah! That was the way I got around LH's K fares, I'd use UA to get an L or higher. Now I have to find a new way

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Gah! That was the way I got around LH's K fares, if use UA to get an L or higher. Now I have to find a new way
Same here
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FWIW LH-Group also changed ticketing-rules for intra-European flights in all classes except full-fare to require LH-Group stock.

So for a few days now UA cannot issue any of the LH-Group fares on 016-documents any more...quite an issue as this means that you will no longer be able to earn miles based on money spend but on distance only, which within Europe is kind of minuscule.

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Old Mar 23, 17, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by djohannw View Post
FWIW LH-Group also changed ticketing-rules for intra-European flights in all classes except full-fare to require LH-Group stock.

So for a few days now UA cannot issue any of the LH-Group fares on 016-documents any more... ...
This may be an overstatement.
No only intra-European LH group flights on UA 016 tickets. However, if in conjunction with outside of Europe travel, say TATL flight, there are no limitation. A key point.
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Old Mar 23, 17, 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA View Post
This may be an overstatement.
No only intra-European LH group flights on UA 016 tickets. However, if in conjunction with outside of Europe travel, say TATL flight, there are no limitation. A key point.
Right. So it's still possible to book (for example) SFO-FRA-FCO in W on UA stock.
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Old Mar 30, 17, 1:25 am
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no more cheap economy flights on LH booked thru UA.com?

Hi -

I was looking to book an intra-European ticket on UA.com as I have done multiple times in the past. For some reason I only get very expensive flexible Economy and basic Economy shows not available, when it is in fact available on Expedia and LH.com

Is that a trend?
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