Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > United Airlines | MileagePlus
Reload this Page >

First international trip- chance of complimentary upgrades on partner flights?

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

First international trip- chance of complimentary upgrades on partner flights?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 21, 2017, 9:57 am
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 97
First international trip- chance of complimentary upgrades on partner flights?

First international trip. Already booked- just curious what odds are of getting upgraded.

I'm premier Silver on United- just really started flying a lot.

1st segment- ANA 3 class jet- booked P- Any chance of getting bumped up to F?

3 short (1.5 hr) segments in Asia on SQ- Booked in Y. Does SQ upgrade Y like United does? Any chance of getting Business class? R0 in fares, C8 J2 though on all 3.

Long segment Asia to Australia on SQ- booked in C, any chance of getting F? F3 A1. Would love to have a suite!

Last segment is AC booked Z- they don't have F so i know the answer there.

Thanks- still a newbie at all of this with not the greatest status.
goduke7 is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 10:00 am
  #2  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CA, FL, and China.
Programs: UA1K (no longer serviced!), Bonvoy P, Hyatt G
Posts: 704
I would advice you that the free upgrades are unlikely.
GloballyServiced is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 10:02 am
  #3  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: Continental OnePass
Posts: 856
Complementary Upgrades on United are only on domestic flights. So even if you were flying UA metal you wouldn't get upgraded on an international flight without spending money or miles.
swiftaw is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 10:02 am
  #4  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,448
Originally Posted by goduke7
First international trip. Already booked- just curious what odds are of getting upgraded.
Essentially zero.

Enjoy your business class experience, those should be nice flights.
Kacee is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 10:14 am
  #5  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SEA
Programs: UA Plat, AS MVP, HH Gold, MR Gold
Posts: 1,848
Good news is those are really good biz and coach services, and should be nice flights.

Bad news is an upgrade would be a "freak occurrence". Your best chance is you're sitting next to a member of a couple, whose partner is in the higher cabin and who's willing to downgrade and trade seats with you to be with their companion.

You could upgrade the NH leg with miles (30K and $600). [No, you can't; I was looking at the UA metal chart.]

Since you said you just started flying a lot: if you are doing several itineraries like this a year, you'll want to watch your PQDs. This will earn a fair bit of PQM, but likely no PQD, which will prevent you from earning the international upgrade instruments (for UA metal).

Last edited by PVDProf; Mar 21, 2017 at 11:22 am
PVDProf is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 10:20 am
  #6  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,448
Originally Posted by PVDProf
You could upgrade the NH leg with miles (30K and $600).
Not possible. Miles and co-pay is for UA operated flights. And *A or NH upgrade not available on a P fare.
Kacee is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 10:33 am
  #7  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Honolulu Harbor
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 15,015
Originally Posted by goduke7
...I'm premier Silver on United...
Silver status is almost no status. It won't count for anything on your current itinerary. Gold status gets you Star Alliance lounge access when you're departing in coach internationally.
IAH-OIL-TRASH is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 10:34 am
  #8  
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: SLC
Programs: United Gold, Hilton Silver, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 768
Originally Posted by Kacee
Not possible. Miles and co-pay is for UA operated flights. And *A or NH upgrade not available on a P fare.
You can upgrade on *A flights if the fare is eligible.


https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...rade/saua.aspx
BBSHOPSINGER is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 10:39 am
  #9  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,448
Originally Posted by BBSHOPSINGER
You can upgrade on *A flights if the fare is eligible.


https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...rade/saua.aspx
Not an NH P fare. Which I already mentioned in the post you quoted.
Kacee is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 10:56 am
  #10  
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: SLC
Programs: United Gold, Hilton Silver, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 768
Originally Posted by Kacee
Not an NH P fare. Which I already mentioned in the post you quoted.
Sorry - I didn't pick up on the fare info.
BBSHOPSINGER is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 11:24 am
  #11  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SEA
Programs: UA Plat, AS MVP, HH Gold, MR Gold
Posts: 1,848
Originally Posted by Kacee
Not an NH P fare. Which I already mentioned in the post you quoted.
Thanks for catching the mistake. I even went to look it up, and just wound up on the wrong chart.

Not that it's much of an excuse around here, but I'm jetlagged and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet....
PVDProf is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 12:18 pm
  #12  
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SAN
Programs: 1K (since 2008), *G (since 1990), 1MM
Posts: 3,217
In all my years of flying, and I have been 1K since 2009 I have only received one complimentary upgrade from a partner airline and that was TAP in 2014 on a flight from Portugal to London. I think the flight was oversold and they bumped me up to business due to my Star Alliance gold status.
Aussienarelle is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 12:21 pm
  #13  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,448
Originally Posted by PVDProf
Thanks for catching the mistake. I even went to look it up, and just wound up on the wrong chart.

Not that it's much of an excuse around here, but I'm jetlagged and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet....
There are so many different sets of rules . . . I make at least a mistake a week here.
Kacee is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 12:46 pm
  #14  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SFO/SJC
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 14,884
You're chance is close to, but perhaps a smidge above zero.

As others have mentioned, there is no policy for comp. upgrades on partner airlines. There is a chance that a cabin is oversold, and they need to upgrade people in order to accomodate everyone confirmed. Even then, you'll be low on the list, would typically come after the airlines own elites - typically, if this is done, would go to the airline's own elites, then *G, then *S.

I'll tell you about my revent story - in late Dec., I had what I call a double-upgrade on LH from FRA-BLR (I'm a gold). Overbooked - I call it a double-upgrade because I was booked in regular economy, so went straight past premium economy into business. Great flight. But rare - likely a ton of Y demand for Christmas/New Years and low business demand. Found out at check in - initially, woudn't show me my assigned seat so was worried what would spit out on my BP - but it was in row 9. This is why I say there is a non-zero chance. I've been elite on UA for 10 years, and this is the first time I've ever had an op-up on either UA or partner (well, to be clear, I have had a couple of very short-haul Op ups in the PMUA days before comp. upgrades - those were on IAD-JFK and ORD-YYZ.

My wife was once upgraded as a silver on DXB-IAD. Again, rare. She's been elite for almost as long as me, and that's her only one.

Chances are low enough that its not worth worrying about.
emcampbe is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2017, 12:49 pm
  #15  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,009
Originally Posted by goduke7
First international trip. Already booked- just curious what odds are of getting upgraded.
Zero chance. Or less. Do not bother asking at check in.
With non USA carriers always expect to fly in the cabin you purchased.
The upgrade policy of non USA carriers and USA carriers is vastly different (~opposite)
Non USA carriers will fly with empty premium seats always, at times having denied upgrades to their own frequent flyers with miles/points/cash co pay.
With non USA carriers the front of the aircraft is not (free) upgrade class.

UA/Star Alliance have a very restrictive cross airline system dependant on fare class. Useless for most people (and you) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-carriers.html

You can use your credit card to pay the full fare difference
Mwenenzi is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.