New United Branding?
#61
Join Date: Mar 2015
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It does look like the “Destinations” background (which you saw on some Global Sevices lobbies, Ties, Scarfs, promo videos) are on their way out.
#62
Join Date: Oct 2016
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I guess I'm the only person who thinks the tulip logo looks horribly dated then?
I've only flown United post merger so have no emotional connection, and the tulip makes me think 70s. The globe may not be inspired but it at least looks modern.
I've only flown United post merger so have no emotional connection, and the tulip makes me think 70s. The globe may not be inspired but it at least looks modern.
#63
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Pentagram last redid the tulip itself in 1996, and the livery in 2004.
If that work had continued, you'd most likely have had seen an evolution by 2017.
With that said, the pmUA brand was a lot more than simply the logo - The custom United typeface, livery, branding etc. The pictures of the Global Services card are a great example. Understated, sophisticated, and business-like. That's what United should have stayed with. What we got was a branding tragedy. Stodgy, forgettable, and low-rent all ring to mind, just like the ads post-merger. From Fallon Worldwide's work, to Smisek's sick idea of branding was just...sad. Unfortunately, it all came to symbolize what UAL was perceived by its customers, shareholders, and employees shortly after the merger - as Walmart Air.
If that work had continued, you'd most likely have had seen an evolution by 2017.
With that said, the pmUA brand was a lot more than simply the logo - The custom United typeface, livery, branding etc. The pictures of the Global Services card are a great example. Understated, sophisticated, and business-like. That's what United should have stayed with. What we got was a branding tragedy. Stodgy, forgettable, and low-rent all ring to mind, just like the ads post-merger. From Fallon Worldwide's work, to Smisek's sick idea of branding was just...sad. Unfortunately, it all came to symbolize what UAL was perceived by its customers, shareholders, and employees shortly after the merger - as Walmart Air.
#64
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So, predictably, this thread has devolved from a legitimate question about the use of the full "UNITED AIRLINES" vs. the more common "UNITED" logotype into yet another lamentation of post-merger branding... yawn.
As an aside, this thread prompted me to look at some of United's older (~20 years ago) international advertising, and it would appear that 'UNITED AIRLINES' historically figured prominently in UA's international branding, especially Y&R's work around the 'Rising' era.
As an aside, this thread prompted me to look at some of United's older (~20 years ago) international advertising, and it would appear that 'UNITED AIRLINES' historically figured prominently in UA's international branding, especially Y&R's work around the 'Rising' era.
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So, predictably, this thread has devolved from a legitimate question about the use of the full "UNITED AIRLINES" vs. the more common "UNITED" logotype into yet another lamentation of post-merger branding... yawn.
As an aside, this thread prompted me to look at some of United's older (~20 years ago) international advertising, and it would appear that 'UNITED AIRLINES' historically figured prominently in UA's international branding, especially Y&R's work around the 'Rising' era.
As an aside, this thread prompted me to look at some of United's older (~20 years ago) international advertising, and it would appear that 'UNITED AIRLINES' historically figured prominently in UA's international branding, especially Y&R's work around the 'Rising' era.
What's weird is that I have now seen other ads that feature "United Airlines" rather than "United" but none have been at races or other sporting events. My brother sent me one from IAH that was talking about Brazil and United's partnership with Azul and it was using "UNITED AIRLINES" next to the globe.
#67
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Interesting.
What's weird is that I have now seen other ads that feature "United Airlines" rather than "United" but none have been at races or other sporting events. My brother sent me one from IAH that was talking about Brazil and United's partnership with Azul and it was using "UNITED AIRLINES" next to the globe.
What's weird is that I have now seen other ads that feature "United Airlines" rather than "United" but none have been at races or other sporting events. My brother sent me one from IAH that was talking about Brazil and United's partnership with Azul and it was using "UNITED AIRLINES" next to the globe.
#69
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,324
So, predictably, this thread has devolved from a legitimate question about the use of the full "UNITED AIRLINES" vs. the more common "UNITED" logotype into yet another lamentation of post-merger branding... yawn.
As an aside, this thread prompted me to look at some of United's older (~20 years ago) international advertising, and it would appear that 'UNITED AIRLINES' historically figured prominently in UA's international branding, especially Y&R's work around the 'Rising' era.
As an aside, this thread prompted me to look at some of United's older (~20 years ago) international advertising, and it would appear that 'UNITED AIRLINES' historically figured prominently in UA's international branding, especially Y&R's work around the 'Rising' era.
Here's what SF Gate said in Feb 2004:
"The carrier, which was assisted by its branding consultant, the New York office of the British company Pentagram, said the intent of the makeover and brand campaign is to help the airline 'forge an emotional connection with its most valued customer, frequent business travelers.'"
http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...sh-2822079.php
When United redid it's brand in the late 90s, they clearly de-emphasized the "Airlines" part, though the brand was always intended to still be able to add words after.
#70
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While I came from the pmCO side (and I prefer the globe to the tulip, but can appreciate the clean simplicity of the tulip), I do feel like pmUA has had more evocative/resonating advertising vs. pmCO which has been rather blunt and to the point.
The recent pmUA ads I remember were soft sell and almost deemphasized the United brand, vs pmCO's was front-and-center.
For the record one of my favorite commercials of all time (and one my fiancée will still randomly send me when I'm on the road) is the
-- and that series was IMO, very well done.
The recent pmUA ads I remember were soft sell and almost deemphasized the United brand, vs pmCO's was front-and-center.
For the record one of my favorite commercials of all time (and one my fiancée will still randomly send me when I'm on the road) is the
#73
Join Date: Jul 2005
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While I came from the pmCO side (and I prefer the globe to the tulip, but can appreciate the clean simplicity of the tulip), I do feel like pmUA has had more evocative/resonating advertising vs. pmCO which has been rather blunt and to the point.
The recent pmUA ads I remember were soft sell and almost deemphasized the United brand, vs pmCO's was front-and-center.
For the record one of my favorite commercials of all time (and one my fiancée will still randomly send me when I'm on the road) is the "Heart" commercial -- and that series was IMO, very well done.
The recent pmUA ads I remember were soft sell and almost deemphasized the United brand, vs pmCO's was front-and-center.
For the record one of my favorite commercials of all time (and one my fiancée will still randomly send me when I'm on the road) is the "Heart" commercial -- and that series was IMO, very well done.
Here's a great behind the scenes of that spot if you're interested:
And EWR764 - Thise ads were primarily from the dreaded "United is Rising" era. United singularly was used going forward in most marketing in all of the 00s, sans for overseas markets. Sort off of the same situation now .
Last edited by tuolumne; Mar 6, 2017 at 8:35 pm
#74
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The "Heart" spot is absolutely spectacular. It's set to dueling piano peices by Herbie Hancock and Lang Lang, each representing the two separated people in the commercial.
Here's a great behind the scenes of that spot if you're interested:
Herbie Hancock & Lang Lang/Heart Documentary - YouTube
And EWR764 - Thise ads were primarily from the dreaded "United is Rising" era. United singularly was used going forward in most marketing in all of the 00s, sans for overseas markets. Sort off of the same situation now .
Here's a great behind the scenes of that spot if you're interested:
Herbie Hancock & Lang Lang/Heart Documentary - YouTube
And EWR764 - Thise ads were primarily from the dreaded "United is Rising" era. United singularly was used going forward in most marketing in all of the 00s, sans for overseas markets. Sort off of the same situation now .