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How can i find routing allowances for a D fare SDC

Old Feb 22, 17, 5:34 am
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How can i find routing allowances for a D fare SDC

I have a D fare PEK-SFO. I want to fly the night before and there are flights that go PEK-ORD-SFO, PEK-EWR-SFO or PEK-IAD-SFO. Is there a way to find out if those are legal routings? the ticket was pricey, so i'm guessing the routing rules are fairly liberal. but i'm guessing the app won't offer the options. and if i call, none of the routes seem natural so an agent likely will question it. but if there's a way to know the rule that would be awesome.

i know for instance, AA cheap coach fares allow routing PEK-ORD-LAX/SFO or PEK-DFW-LAX/SFO as i've bought these tickets many many times. but since they have no other connection points, they may not have a choice in routing rules. UA may be different.

thx in advance.
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Old Feb 22, 17, 5:41 am
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You don't have a D fare - you have a fare that booked into a D fare bucket. The fare basis may be something like DFX5ZEC3.

ExpertFlyer's fare information pages have links to full routing rules, be they routing-specific or MPM.
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Old Feb 22, 17, 5:47 am
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For the dates I checked I didn't find a one-way D fare PEK-SFO so I'm assuming this is part of a round trip ticket.

The D fares I found for r/t allow any routing so you can technically do PEK-east coast-SFO without a problem. The app may not offer you this SDC but the phone reps should be able to make it no problem.

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Old Feb 22, 17, 6:10 am
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thank you. it is part of a multi city. pek-sfo and ord-pek. i looked at the receipt and couldn't find a fare basis code. but if the only d fares you found allowed any connections, then i'm thinking i should be good! thank you
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Old Feb 22, 17, 6:26 am
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Originally Posted by iflyuaaa View Post
thank you. it is part of a multi city. pek-sfo and ord-pek. i looked at the receipt and couldn't find a fare basis code. but if the only d fares you found allowed any connections, then i'm thinking i should be good! thank you
The Saudia site should give you the fare basis code. Just input your ticket number.
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Old Feb 22, 17, 6:31 am
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Originally Posted by RobOnLI View Post
For the dates I checked I didn't find a one-way D fare PEK-SFO so I'm assuming this is part of a round trip ticket.

The D fares I found for r/t allow any routing so you can technically do PEK-east coast-SFO without a problem. The app may not offer you this SDC but the phone reps should be able to make it no problem.

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Which D fare did you pull up? I just pulled up DFX03EM4 and it definitely doesn't allow any routing.

Code:
/VIA THE PACIFIC/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
 1. SFO-SFO/SEA/LAX-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-
    WP/UA/HA-HNL-GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/NH/CA-BJS
 2. SFO-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/HA-HNL-
    GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/NH/CA-BJS
 3. SFO-SNA-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/HA-
    HNL-GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/NH/CA-BJS
 4. SFO-SFO/SEA/LAX-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-
    WP/UA/HA-HNL-GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/NH/CA-SHA-UA/NH/CA-BJS
 5. SFO-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/HA-HNL-
    GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/NH/CA-SHA-UA/NH/CA-BJS
 6. SFO-SNA-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/HA-
    HNL-GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/NH/CA-SHA-UA/NH/CA-BJS
 7. SFO-SFO/SEA/LAX-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-
    WP/UA/HA-HNL-GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-HKG-UA/KA-BJS
 8. SFO-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/HA-HNL-
    GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-HKG-UA/KA-BJS
 9. SFO-SNA-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/HA-
    HNL-GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-HKG-UA/KA-BJS
10. SFO-SFO/SEA/LAX-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-
    WP/UA/HA-HNL-GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/OZ/7C-SEL-UA/OZ-BJS
11. SFO-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/HA-HNL-
    GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/OZ/7C-SEL-UA/OZ-BJS
12. SFO-SNA-HNL-WP/UA/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/HA-
    HNL-GUM-TYO/OSA-UA/OZ/7C-SEL-UA/OZ-BJS
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Old Feb 22, 17, 6:57 am
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I believe SDC allows variants in routing not normally permitted. I'm flying EWR CLT on a super low G and am getting ORD and IAD as connection points on SDC.
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Old Feb 22, 17, 7:53 am
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Originally Posted by aacharya View Post
I believe SDC allows variants in routing not normally permitted. I'm flying EWR CLT on a super low G and am getting ORD and IAD as connection points on SDC.
This. I wouldn't worry too much about routing rules for an SDC. You might see the other connections on the App or you may have to call.
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Old Feb 22, 17, 4:47 pm
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here's my fare basis, can someone who has access figure out the routingrules?

DFW5ZEC3
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Old Feb 22, 17, 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by iflyuaaa View Post
here's my fare basis, can someone who has access figure out the routingrules?

DFW5ZEC3
Also +1 to Kacee however about SDC rarely respecting routing rules.

Code:
PA01*  /VIA THE PACIFIC/ PUBLISHED RTG 501
       1. BJS-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/KOA/
          LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-LAX/SEA/SFO-SFO
       2. BJS-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/KOA/
          LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SFO
       3. BJS-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/KOA/
          LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SNA-SFO
       4. BJS-CA/NH/UA-SHA-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-
          ITO/JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-LAX/SEA/SFO-
          SFO
       5. BJS-CA/NH/UA-SHA-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-
          ITO/JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SFO
       6. BJS-CA/NH/UA-SHA-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-
          ITO/JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SNA-SFO
       7. BJS-KA/UA-HKG-NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/
          KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-LAX/SEA/SFO-SFO
       8. BJS-KA/UA-HKG-NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/
          KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SFO
       9. BJS-KA/UA-HKG-NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/
          KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SNA-SFO
      10. BJS-OZ/UA-SEL-7C/OZ/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/
          JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-LAX/SEA/SFO-SFO
      11. BJS-OZ/UA-SEL-7C/OZ/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/
          JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SFO
      12. BJS-OZ/UA-SEL-7C/OZ/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/
          JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SNA-SFO
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Also +1 to Kacee however about SDC rarely respecting routing rules.

Code:
PA01*  /VIA THE PACIFIC/ PUBLISHED RTG 501
       1. BJS-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/KOA/
          LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-LAX/SEA/SFO-SFO
       2. BJS-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/KOA/
          LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SFO
       3. BJS-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/KOA/
          LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SNA-SFO
       4. BJS-CA/NH/UA-SHA-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-
          ITO/JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-LAX/SEA/SFO-
          SFO
       5. BJS-CA/NH/UA-SHA-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-
          ITO/JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SFO
       6. BJS-CA/NH/UA-SHA-CA/NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-
          ITO/JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SNA-SFO
       7. BJS-KA/UA-HKG-NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/
          KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-LAX/SEA/SFO-SFO
       8. BJS-KA/UA-HKG-NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/
          KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SFO
       9. BJS-KA/UA-HKG-NH/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/JHM/
          KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SNA-SFO
      10. BJS-OZ/UA-SEL-7C/OZ/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/
          JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-LAX/SEA/SFO-SFO
      11. BJS-OZ/UA-SEL-7C/OZ/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/
          JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SFO
      12. BJS-OZ/UA-SEL-7C/OZ/UA-OSA/TYO-GUM-HNL-HA/UA/WP-ITO/
          JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-HA/UA/WP-HNL-SNA-SFO
thx. so if i'm reading this correctly, i cannot do PEK-ORD-SFO, it looks like the route only allows partner airline connections in asia. which obviously you can't use a partner to SDC.

so i will rely on the advice that routing rules often don't matter in SDC and hope they let me go through ORD. worse plane, but i'll get in the day before which is what i want, i suppose i can also use the lounge which is a nice bonus.
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Old Feb 22, 17, 6:20 pm
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Originally Posted by iflyuaaa View Post
thx. so if i'm reading this correctly, i cannot do PEK-ORD-SFO, it looks like the route only allows partner airline connections in asia. which obviously you can't use a partner to SDC.
Correct. General rule is that you can fly via any single line, and omit any number of connecting segments within that line. I would definitely give the ORD change a shot, but you're definitely out of luck if the agent says no.
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