How many are REALLY leaving UA? [ARCHIVE]
Apr 29, 2015, 4:28 pm
#961
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I would imagine that the comment is in regard to PQ$ and perhaps the 2015 increase over 2014 required levels, particularly with the comment about moving to the only mAAjor progrAAm without $$ requirement.
Apr 29, 2015, 4:37 pm
#962
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But PQD has nothing to do with MM. But yes, I forgot they raised the PQD requirement this year for each level.
Apr 29, 2015, 6:07 pm
#963
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As someone who is now over 935,000 lifetime miles, but may have a tough time with the new 2015 PQD thresholds, the comment makes perfect sense to me. Especially since one of the key MM benefits is gifting current status to a partner. If, due to PQD requirements, that's only going to be Gold from here on out, then MM status is not nearly so valuable as if I were gifting 1K or Plat.
Apr 29, 2015, 6:15 pm
#964
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As someone who is now over 935,000 lifetime miles, but may have a tough time with the new 2015 PQD thresholds, the comment makes perfect sense to me. Especially since one of the key MM benefits is gifting current status to a partner. If, due to PQD requirements, that's only going to be Gold from here on out, then MM status is not nearly so valuable as if I were gifting 1K or Plat.
But maybe I was just reading their comment in a way they didn't intend.
Apr 29, 2015, 6:17 pm
#965
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I haven't flown with UA in a long time, but I'm trying them out again twice this Summer. Having flown AA, B6, and US recently, I have found JetBlue my favorite, but their destinations are so limited.
Apr 29, 2015, 6:23 pm
#966
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I didn't say it's worthless. But there's no question that for many travelers, increasing PQD thresholds, combined with endless cuts in benefits, degrades the value proposition.
What I see here is quite a few longtime 1Ks saying "enough . . . it's not worth it anymore." Your calculation may be different from theirs. Personally I'm not there yet, but I definitely get it.
What I see here is quite a few longtime 1Ks saying "enough . . . it's not worth it anymore." Your calculation may be different from theirs. Personally I'm not there yet, but I definitely get it.
Apr 29, 2015, 6:31 pm
#967
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I'm going to drop this as the OP I was answering to has not come back to answer my question or correct my understanding and discussing with others what the OP's intent was is a fruitless endeavor. Your understanding of what they meant is different from mine so I'm tagging out until they come back.
Apr 29, 2015, 9:04 pm
#968
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Apr 29, 2015, 11:48 pm
#969
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Actually, he bought his "kia" from some guy named Jeff Smisik. Its actually a used Yugo with a "kia" badge glued on it, and it was priced like a caddy.... (United can not command Mercedes of BMW prices, even if inflated. 
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Apr 30, 2015, 3:42 am
#970
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As someone who is now over 935,000 lifetime miles, but may have a tough time with the new 2015 PQD thresholds, the comment makes perfect sense to me. Especially since one of the key MM benefits is gifting current status to a partner. If, due to PQD requirements, that's only going to be Gold from here on out, then MM status is not nearly so valuable as if I were gifting 1K or Plat.
Apr 30, 2015, 11:31 am
#971
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Actually, hurting the person you were going to gift that 1K status to.
I'd be pissed if I were them, and you are only gifting me silver! Just because you want a more comfortable travel experience on some glitzy foreign airline!
Last edited by LarkSFO; Apr 30, 2015 at 11:53 am
Apr 30, 2015, 1:02 pm
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But even Gold is not worthless. There is more to status than just upgrades and some fees waived. E+ at booking, *A lounge access, free bags among them. Yes, 1K or Platinum is better but I very much appreciated the benefits of Gold as a MM before I hit Platinum. And knowing I don't have to requalify for Gold is a little pressure off of attaining status.
But maybe I was just reading their comment in a way they didn't intend.
But maybe I was just reading their comment in a way they didn't intend.
Apr 30, 2015, 1:26 pm
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Apr 30, 2015, 2:19 pm
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