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Check the current status of aircraft reconfigured (or delivered) with new Polaris seats: http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/3

Except for 773- and 781-operated flights, Polaris-equipped planes have not been allocated to specific routes. You won't know until approx. 36-48 hours before departure if you'll have a newly reconfigured aircraft, and even then, it may be replaced with a non-retrofitted aircraft.

777-300ER - All 18 aircraft have been delivered and are now in service with Polaris cabins factory-installed.
- 6 of 18 77Ws have been retrofitted with Premium Plus, one in mod

767-300ER - As of 1 Apr. 2019, 14 of the 38 aircraft have been reconfigured with the Polaris seats.
- Retrofit is from 3-cabin to 2-cabin with direct-aisle-access seats. No 3-cabin 767s remain in service.
- 76A configuration is 30J/50Y+/134Y, total of 214; fleet to consist of 14 ships (former 3-cabin 767s).
- 76L configuration is 46J/22PE/47Y+/52Y; fleet to consist of 17 ships (14 former 2-cabin 76C and 3 used ships from Hawaiian).

767-400ER - None updated yet but modifications set to begin in 2020.

777-200ER - As of 18 Apr. 2019, 22 of the 55 aircraft have been reconfigured with Polaris and Premium Plus seats, 5 units being refurbished.
- United says all 777-200ER will be complete by 2020
- Configuration will have 50 Polaris seats, 32 in front cabin and 18 in second cabin (behind 2L/R)
- Configuration will be 10 across in economy, with 86 E+ seats and 156 E seats, with E+ in front economy cabin plus exit rows and bulkhead at 3L/R, i.e., almost the same as current pmCO planes, except with 4 seats in middle section.
- Seat map (v5) on united.com

787-8, 787-9 - None modified yet but slated to begin in late 2019. 13 787-9s ordered for 2020 delivery will come with Polaris and Premium Plus.

787-10 - 6 of 14 787-10s have been delivered. All come with Polaris and Premium Plus cabins factory-installed.

FAQ:
Q: My flight seat map shows 772 with polaris seats is it a retrofit?
A: Possibly. The flight status page shows the most accurate scheduled aircraft. If a 77W is swapped in, it will list the aircraft as 777-300ER. However, if the 772's seatmap shows blue rectangular boxes in the business class cabin instead of "pointy rounds", this would indicate that a retrofit aircraft has been swapped.

See also: United Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris seats
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Old Sep 16, 18, 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by mike2003242 View Post
The 78Js are going to be a fine aircraft with Polaris and PE!
Once the 767s are gone, this will be the best long haul bird in the fleet.
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Old Sep 17, 18, 5:40 pm
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Planes at HKG for Polaris retrofits

Does anyone know how the 4 planes in Hong Kong did during the typhoon that passed through?
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HAECO has a lot of hangar space, and extra planes can be squeezed in if necessary. Most all of their heavy work is done inside, and I assume airplanes that could fly were already outside and flown elsewhere to wait out the storm.
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So my seating map is blocked in Y with the PE seating but it is showing 3 class cabin. I understand the seat map is a placeholder, or at least I think it is.

So if the aircraft does have true PE does this mean it will have the Polaris hard product?

I ask as I have a GPU applied but also excited to try the new PE product. However for the return I have got the UG but in 6K. However if it truly does end up as retrofitted Polaris hard product I would prefer an odd window sest.

Does anyone know if PE will always have the Ploaris hard product?

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So if the aircraft does have true PE does this mean it will have the Polaris hard product?
Yes.

Which route?
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Yes.

Which route?
UA900 and UA901 in November.

I have 20A for UA901. :-D
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I just checked for 07-Nov-18 and both SFO/LHR flights are showing with the 3-cabin sUA 777-200. This is probably the type of aircraft they will use. As of now, there are 24 of them in service with this configuration and 5 more with the Polaris seating. UA will show the seat map of the older version and if they intend on using one of the planes with Polaris seats, they will update the seat map about 2 days before departure. Given that the ratio is 24/5 for the old configuration, I would expect that and be pleasantly surprised if you do end up with a Polaris bird.
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Really, a few hours before departure?
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Originally Posted by phkc070408 View Post
I just checked for 07-Nov-18 and both SFO/LHR flights are showing with the 3-cabin sUA 777-200. This is probably the type of aircraft they will use. As of now, there are 24 of them in service with this configuration and 5 more with the Polaris seating. UA will show the seat map of the older version and if they intend on using one of the planes with Polaris seats, they will update the seat map about 2 days before departure. Given that the ratio is 24/5 for the old configuration, I would expect that and be pleasantly surprised if you do end up with a Polaris bird.
I could be completely wrong but in my experience the 3 cabin aircraft typically fly out of ORD and IAD. I would not bank on a Polaris retrofit but i would guess at some point they may switch the seat map to a 2 class pmco 777
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Originally Posted by mike2003242 View Post
I could be completely wrong but in my experience the 3 cabin aircraft typically fly out of ORD and IAD.
While I admit that the bulk of the 77Ws, which are 2 class (for now) are SFO based, there still are 772s based in SFO and UA has made little effort to dedicate the Polaris birds any route or even bases. That said, the bulk of the 772s going in and out of SFO are the 3 class.

What you do have a decent chance of one of the SFO-LHR routes being changed to a 77W route, in which case you are pretty much guaranteed a Polaris bird.

Also, do the 2 class CO 772s frequent SFO? I was not aware of this, but I guess it is possible.
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Originally Posted by phkc070408 View Post
While I admit that the bulk of the 77Ws, which are 2 class (for now) are SFO based, there still are 772s based in SFO and UA has made little effort to dedicate the Polaris birds any route or even bases. That said, the bulk of the 772s going in and out of SFO are the 3 class.

What you do have a decent chance of one of the SFO-LHR routes being changed to a 77W route, in which case you are pretty much guaranteed a Polaris bird.

Also, do the 2 class CO 772s frequent SFO? I was not aware of this, but I guess it is possible.
After the October 1 FA integration date it will become "easier," as any FA will be able to fly it. Today, operations has to worry about matching sCO FAs to sCO planes and sUA FAs to sUA planes.
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After the October 1 FA integration date it will become "easier," as any FA will be able to fly it. Today, operations has to worry about matching sCO FAs to sCO planes and sUA FAs to sUA planes.
Yes, however sCO and sUA 772s have different engines so they may stick to their traditional hubs due to maintenance efficiencies.
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Also, do the 2 class CO 772s frequent SFO?
No those are pretty much never seen here. We don't really see 763s either since the 787s have come on line.
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Yes, however sCO and sUA 772s have different engines so they may stick to their traditional hubs due to maintenance efficiencies.
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No those are pretty much never seen here. We don't really see 763s either since the 787s have come on line.
That’s what I thought, and why. Also, because of the different style engines, the sUA tripples don’t have the range that the COs have. They would never do EWR-HKG. I believe even EWR-BOM is out of range.

It is true that the FA integrattion will make “subbing” a bird easier, but I suspect things will remain mostly the same, at least for now.


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What's up with N791UA? It's been in XMN for now almost 2 months, shouldn't the retrofit be done by now?

(Incidentally, it looks like unitedfleetsite has the wrong XMN entry date for that one)

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N791UA
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