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✨ Polaris (& PP) Retrofits: Schedule, ....

Old May 29, 2017, 1:21 pm
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Check the current status of aircraft reconfigured (or delivered) with new Polaris seats: http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/3.

A Polaris Update and Polaris Mod Schedule to indicate the status of specific aircraft are maintained by those that manage the United Airlines Fleet Website.

Except for 773- and 781-operated flights, and those markets selling Premium Plus, Polaris-equipped planes have not been allocated to specific routes. You won't know until approx. 36-48 hours before departure if you'll have a newly reconfigured aircraft, and even then, it may be replaced with a non-retrofitted aircraft.

777-300ER - All 22 aircraft have Polaris (60 seats) and installation of Premium Plus cabins (24 seats) is complete.

767-300ER - As of September 2020, 31 of the 38 aircraft have been reconfigured with the Polaris seats.
- Retrofit is from 3-cabin to 2-cabin with direct-aisle-access seats. No 3-cabin 767s remain in service.
- 76A configuration is 30J/50Y+/134Y, total of 214; fleet to consist of 17 ships (former 3-cabin 767s).
- 76L configuration is 46J/22PE/47Y+/52Y; fleet to consist of 21 ships (18 former 2-cabin 76C and 3 used ships from Hawaiian).

767-400ER - [16 aircraft] None updated yet; modifications put on hold due to Covid-19.

777-200ER - As of September 2020, 46 of the 50 aircraft have been reconfigured with Polaris and Premium Plus seats.
- Configuration is 50 Polaris seats, 32 in the front cabin and 18 in the second cabin (behind 2L/R)
- Configuration is 10 across in economy, with 24 Premium Plus seats, 46 86 E+ seats and 156 E seats, with E+ in front economy cabin plus exit rows and bulkhead at 3L/R, i.e., almost the same as current pmCO planes, except with 4 seats in middle section.
- Seat map (v5) on united.com

787-8, 787-9 - As of November 2022, all 787-8/9 are converted or in mod. No chance of flying old configuration anymore.
- 788 configuration has 28 Polaris seats (20 in front cabin, 8 in rear mini-cabin), and 21 Premium Plus seats (2-3-2).
- 789 configuration has 48 Polaris seats (32 in front cabin, 16 in rear mini-cabin), and 21 Premium Plus seats (2-3-2).

787-10 - 13 787-10s have been delivered in 2020. All come with Polaris and Premium Plus cabins factory-installed. Another 19 should be added by 2024.

FAQ:
Q: Does a Polaris ticket mean the aircraft has the new Polaris seat?

A: No, Polaris is the label UA uses for long haul international business class. It is also the label UA uses for the new seats, so this does create some confusion.
All the 773s and 787-10s are 100% the new seat.
The rest of the long haul fleet in various stages of conversion, see http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/3

Q: How to tell if my aircraft is the new style Polaris seats?
A: If the unassigned business class section is showing orange seats or all the seats are side-by-side or there is a section for 4 adjacent seats in the middle, this is an old style lie-flat aircreaft
If the unassigned bussines class seats are dark blue seats or the all the seats appear to have direct aisle access, then you aircraft is the new Polaris seat.
You can also look at the FT maintained, United Fleet Site and crosscheck the tail number or check thePolaris Update tab

Q: How to tell if my aircraft has the new PremiumPlus (PP) / Premium Economy seats?
A: If the unassigned seats just behind business class are purple seats or the aircraft is 773 or 787-10, then yes. However, the purple color seat will only show on routes where PP is being sold.
Aircraft with PP seats are being used on some routes but are not being sold as PP. In those cases, the seats are considered to be a part of E+. In those cases, an indicator of PP sold as E+ will be if the first few rows of economy, there are just 2 seats on the sides (with the rest of E+ showing 3 seats).

Q: Will the aircraft I see at booking be the same configuration at flight time?
A: Unfortunately with the fleet in transit, aircraft swaps happen. UA tends to use placeholders until 2 days before travel and even after that last minute swaps do happen.

Q: My flight seat map shows 772 with polaris seats is it a retrofit?
A: Possibly. The flight status page shows the most accurate scheduled aircraft. If a 77W is swapped in, it will list the aircraft as 777-300ER. However, if the 772's seatmap shows blue rectangular boxes in the business class cabin instead of orange "pointy rounds", this would indicate that a retrofit aircraft has been swapped.

See also: United Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris seats

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✨ Polaris (& PP) Retrofits: Schedule, ....

Old Sep 8, 2017, 10:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Duke787
Those crew rest seats look like a preview of what a UA Premium Economy would look like if they ever decide to add it...
Yea it's a good basis for a PE seat. It looks the same as the existing crew rest seats except for new upholstery.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 4:09 am
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
Pretty favorable review, including some nice pix!

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/09/uni...retrofit-tour/
That looks great, it makes the 767 great again It looks really "fresh" in both biz and coach. I think it makes AA's recently retrofitted 767s look 10 yrs older - ok maybe 5
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by diburning
Where the heck did he get a measurement of 19.5 inches for the economy seats? They've always been 17.3 inches wide and I'd be surprised if they went with wider slimlines.
Those aren't slimlines. None of the international fleet is getting slimlines.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by oopl
Yea it's a good basis for a PE seat. It looks the same as the existing crew rest seats except for new upholstery.
Any "PE" seat would cause Economy Plus to go away. I would rather have E+
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by Duke787
Those crew rest seats look like a preview of what a UA Premium Economy would look like if they ever decide to add it...
was exactly my impression as well!
The leg rest part looks like it would actually be a step above compared to several offerings currently out there.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
Those aren't slimlines. None of the international fleet is getting slimlines.
So, the 19.5" seat width then is correct?
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 8:04 am
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
Pretty favorable review, including some nice pix!

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/09/uni...retrofit-tour/
Great post and great pics! The retrofit definitely refreshes the old bird. Glad UA is finally getting a pretty consistent product. Also a nice bonus to use the crew rest seats in the back if an eligible flight. GUM-NRT flights have that opportunity in 1A-1C
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
So, the 19.5" seat width then is correct?
18.5. Same as the existing 2 class. From the article:

the updated 767s maintain the 2-3-2 configuration, with each seat offering a whopping 18.5-inch width, making this the largest economy seat in United’s entire fleet.
Don't know where you're getting 19.5.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 9:16 am
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Originally Posted by diburning
Where the heck did he get a measurement of 19.5 inches for the economy seats? They've always been 17.3 inches wide and I'd be surprised if they went with wider slimlines.
Originally Posted by Kacee
Don't know where you're getting 19.5.
cf above.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 10:37 am
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Trying to book ORD-LHR in early Feb 2018. The 763 seatmap for all three flights shows a three-class plane with all seats grayed out, none available to select. I assume this means they still don't know for sure whether any of those flights will actually have Polaris seating by then....
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by 1P
Trying to book ORD-LHR in early Feb 2018. The 763 seatmap for all three flights shows a three-class plane with all seats grayed out, none available to select. I assume this means they still don't know for sure whether any of those flights will actually have Polaris seating by then....
To be more precise, it means they don't know which of three aircraft types will operate your flight.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 11:00 am
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Zach Honig has a followup after taking inaugural EWR-LHR.
"Polaris on United’s retrofitted 767 may just be the very best business-class option for crossing the Atlantic."

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/09/uni...olaris-review/

He also did note 1 of his usb ports didn't work and another passenger's seat controls didn't work. lol

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Old Sep 9, 2017, 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by LASUA1K
Any "PE" seat would cause Economy Plus to go away. I would rather have E+
Not true. Look at the AA planes with PE. Bulkhead seats and exit rows will continue to exist in economy, and UA will try to sell those seats for more because of the extra legroom. Economy seats with extra legroom is E+.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by oopl
Zach Honig has a followup after taking inaugural EWR-LHR.
"Polaris on Uniteds retrofitted 767 may just be the very best business-class option for crossing the Atlantic."

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/09/uni...olaris-review/
I would first pick:

AF (new seat)
OS

NZ and LX (but only on the 77W) would be up there too.

There are probably others I'm not thinking of.
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Old Sep 9, 2017, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
I would first pick:

AF (new seat)
OS

NZ and LX (but only on the 77W) would be up there too.

There are probably others I'm not thinking of.
AA 77W for one...
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